The Way of Kings: Re-read

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  1. Arecias Dezell

    Arecias Dezell

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    A caption says Urithiru obviously couldn't be placed in Alethela, it had to be placed westward, in the place nearest to Honor. So it was known the Alethi would not or do not have Honor. And Honor is westward, maybe Shinovar?
     
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    I think its based on symmetry-thing they have. Even their names are often (kind of) symmetrical like Shallan, Kalad, Jasnah. In the appedix was this poet and its analysis which tells us a bit of this symmetry-idealism. Could be related to that.
     
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    Yea, I remember reading that. But Jezreal, a Herald I believe, isn't symmetrical. Maybe unrelated to Alethar
     
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    His name is also known as Jezerezeh-Elin, if you drop 'Elin'-part, name Jezerezeh is symmetrical :)
     
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    The mention of it in the Appendix is:

    I wish we had more information about how the Essences are "bound together" into this symbol. Are the two 'pupils' two of the Essences, or do all ten create the surrounding eye and the pupils solely represent creation? I'm inclined to believe the latter, but I think on 17th shard they disagree with me :shrug
     
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    I agree that traditonal Vorinism is imperfect, I believe Jasnah and Shallan will prove that at some point. I think that Vorinism has picked up elements from the KR, Alethela, and other traditions that predate the religion, but have misinterpreted or merged with other beliefs (i.e. Easter, the resurrection mixed with spring renewal celebrations).

    To me your statement is true, that the eyes solely represent creation, or it could be the Creators themselves. And if the Almighty is indeed dead as we who have re-read so far agree on, then the eyes have to belong to the Stormfather and someone else. The Stormfather only seemed to have one eye when he looked at Kaladin. The other eye may belong to whoever the Cultivator is. The Stormfather creates the chulls and their related species, rockbuds, and other life forms that have adapted to the storms. The other eye may belong to the Cultivator of earth-like life forms like in Shinovar and the Purelake. I tend to think the other eye is in the Purelake, since the map Roshar shows the Purelake as looking like the eye of a hurricane, and the storms do not effect the Purelake or the lands west of it. Also the eye the looked at Kaladin was in the eye of the storm.

    At this point, I haven't seen enough evidence to show the eyes are a part of the ten essences. They may be bound to the Essences, but not two of the ten.
     
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    Eluial Aldaran Aes Sedai Head of the Brown Ajah

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    There were some really interesting answers in Brandon's AMA today, but this one in particular caught my eye:

     
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    I noticed that too. Made me very happy, don't know why. Maybe I read this as a promise of a Kal vs. Szeth deathmatch :)
     
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    A battle would be epic, when Kaladin reaches his full potential. I'd like to see them fight on the same side together also, and see what kind of damage they can do fighting side-by-side.
     
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    Wow, it would be an epic battle whether they fight against each other or on the same side. I can't decide which I'd rather see!
     
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    Seeing as Szeth is sent to the Plain, that match is most likely happening :look
     
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    Eluial Aldaran Aes Sedai Head of the Brown Ajah

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    I want to see them fight against each other to a draw, and then join sides and whoop everyone else's ass! :p
     
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    That's actually what I was thinking, Eluial! Or have their fight dramatically interrupted by something so huge that it makes them join sides.
     
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    Yes! ^this. Have their battle interrupted by the Voidbringers, and then they fight together
     
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    Just to clarify, the present theory is that Nan Helaran is the shardbearer who Kaladin killed. This is also likely the Asmodean reference to which Brandon made a reference. Read the timeline of both incidents. Kaladin kills the shardbearer nine months before and Nan Helaran also disappears around the same time. Also the physical description of the shardbearer fits Nan Helaran as both are described as Veden. Also, this is my first post and I'm a fan both of The Wheel of Time and The Way of Kings
     
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    Taika Vinh Aes Sedai

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    Hi and welcome! :)

    I hadn't even thought of the shardbearer Kaladin killed. :lol Sounds pretty plausible. Also, I think I'll need to skim the book once again before the Words of Radiance is out, I've already forgotten lots of stuff (again).
     
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    Read Eshonai interlude in the following link:
    http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/3710-words-of-radiance-readings/
    It's written from the viewpoint of a Parshendi
     
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