LGBTQ+ Inclusion in the Television Series

Discussion in 'Wheel of Time TV Show' started by Jeffan Caliarthan, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. Durin Ironfist

    Durin Ironfist

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    Okay guys, this will be my last post to this thread, until the actual show is out. I´ll stay at the point that can be ways to exaggerate inclusion in the show, but I also don‘t want to put it to 0 (and never wanted it.) The message of a book or book series can be changed if there is changed too much for whatever reason. LGBTQ is the example in this thread, but this is actually the case for other changes, too. I just don‘t like movie or show adaptations that much which have not that much to do with the actual books, anymore. Probably we should just wait, until the show is out to get better arguments and see who is right.

    I see that this is a very emotional topic, for you, but also for me. A few semesters ago I‘ve been in a course for Gender Studies, actually to end some prejudices that I could have, unnoticing… It created more than it ended. In these few days in this thread I probably understood some things better than in this whole semester. Most of the time it was all about feminism and sometimes a bit racism but they don‘t differentiate LGBTQ from feminism, here anyway. In this course people were also quite proud on being politically radical. Although there are also some nice LGBTQ-people in Germany, at least the representatives from them and feminists, here and for example in Great Britain can be harsh and insulting, too, demanding their rights and what they think would be their rights. Very few people criticize them, except of right-wing extremists, which I am definitely not.

    This frustrates me.

    Because of these reasons I have to admit that I was a bit annoyed when I saw that there is a whole thread about how you can bring more LGBTQ in WoT which is one of my favorite book series. Although I really tried not to do it this may have resulted in also me crossing a few lines. I apologize for that.
     
  2. Sela Narian

    Sela Narian Oracle of Delphi Aes Sedai

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    Being LGBTQ and speaking honestly about it isn't being politically radical. In my case and with my post, it's about wanting respect and acknowledgment that I exist.

    You really can't assume anyone's political alignment by their sexual preference. It'd be like saying only liberals like red hair.

    With respect, I think you may have a ways to go in educating yourself before you're able to speak about something like this without revealing just how deep the ignorance goes. I don't mean that as an insult. It's a statement of truth, because there are a number of perhaps unknown biases brought to light in what you've said here.
     
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    Alyria Savoinya Aes Sedai Forum Moderator Mediator

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    Oh dear :facepalm
     
  4. Leese Sulan

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    I agree with Sela.


    Edited to remove reference to an inflammatory post that has been removed.
     
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    Thankyou mods <3
     
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  7. Cieon Maralyn

    Cieon Maralyn Gaidin

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    I would just like to say that I would greatly appreciate the presence of LGBTQ+ relationships in the series. I am gay, married to a man, I have bonus kids and a rather "normal" Family life. I believe our culture influences how we see things and TV-series such as the upcoming WOT series is a part of said culture. I would love to see a "matter of fact" "normalized" LGBTQ+ relationship. No fuzz, no drama (apart from any drama that comes with love :p) and no OMG THIS IS SO CUTTING EDGE. Just love, please :).

    Durin, I will respect your right of opinion, but I hereby state that I disagree with most of them, which is my right. You sometimes say you will respect others' point of view, and I just hope you mean that. I will leave it at that.

    On a side note, I would have been super happy if Perrin's story had a male love interest. Fal, could have been his name. He would probably still have been a little annoying ;) :p.