1. Toral Delvar

    Toral Delvar Archivist Gaidin

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    Anything that is a error?
    One possibility to start with, in Silviana's pov in chapter 37, after she suggests passing the bond, Egwene's response is written as though from her point of view
     
  2. Corwin Matheos

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    I remember that when Rahvin burned Mat and those Aiel around him, that there was something said like this (paraphrasing):
    "He saw Mat's smoldering body, his medallion not protecting him from male channeling." Am I right?

    Also, I would really appreciate if someone can tell me what happened with Morgaze and Tallanwore, because Light knows we lost a lot of time with two of them through the series, without any particular reason.

    If someone remembers, wasn't it said that no weapon made by man can hurt Darkhounds. I know Perrin's hammer was power wrought, but shouldn't that just make metal more firm and not give it any special powers beside never wearing out? Besides, it was still made by man, right?
     
  3. Kiranthus Solaron

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    Basically made by man means with normal means. Power wrought blades are made with the one power infused into it. I believe that darkhounds are able to pull themseleves back together when struck with normal weapons, but the same properties that make power wrought blades better also disrupy that ability of the darkhounds. The better question is if power wrought blades can hurt darkhounds, then why didnt the entire force at shayol gul have power wrought weapons in anticipation of the dark hunt?

    A second theory (probably better) is that Perrin just instantaneously went wolf dream and smacked them there before returning to the real world the same instant like he did against slayer.
     
  4. Tazren Talamar

    Tazren Talamar Gaidin

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    That is correct. But how is it an error? It's Rand's PoV, not universal truth.
     
  5. Corwin Matheos

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    Well, if he wrote it like that, and it turns out it's not true, I call that cheap trick, to be honest. I'd rather think this was one of the mistakes Sanderson made that went unnoticed.
     
  6. AnAnonymousWOTFan

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    I thought Rahvin killed Mat with lightning, and the medallion protects from weaves and not their effects. In that case, Rand WOULD be wrong.

    He blocked Halima's weaves in Book 8 or something too, if I recall.
     
  7. Axis m'Troutilas

    Axis m'Troutilas Gaidin

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    Sorry but the medallion has been proved to work against saidin in RJ written text.

    Halima (Balthamel) indeed tried to use a flow against him and was blocked in Lord of Chaos
    Moreso its been outright stated by RJ to be proof against saidin


     
  8. Corwin Matheos

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    OK, thanks. I am glad this is the case.
     
  9. Caendha al'Milr

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    Corwin, Morgase and Tallanvor got married and then went off to Caemlyn to advise Elayne. I don't remember where they went after, I just assumed they were in the Andor contingent at Merrilor. Does that help?
     
  10. Murun

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    I got stuck on a piece of text which I can't really make fit - seems like leftover from a earlier revision. The Aiel have just got themselves a pivotal part in the Dragon's Peace (p. 175) -
    Why would Rand say this - 'your dream' (Aviendha's?), and what dream? And if this is something Aviendha had dreamed (when, where, how does he know?), the rest must be quoting her. The closest parallel I can remember is in TFoH, right after the crash of the watch tower, when Aviendha tells him he mustn't die,
    Which he (incredible fool in Aiel matters as he steadfastly is shown) did not really give, rather just had taken from him - no matter, things have been fixed. So why his worry?
    Perhaps someone can make more sense of this - or perhaps, it's really a line that somehow escaped the DEL key.
     
  11. Deiria Sha'Veer

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    I think he refers common aiel belief that life is a dream and when you die, you wake up and the dream ends. I don't have the book and chapter here to read why Rand is so troubled, but I think it is because now, aiel as a part of the peace, have to cope with other nations. And aiel isn't the most flexible people there... Rand did try to shelter aiel by leaving them out.
     
  12. Alena Mysana

    Alena Mysana Aes Sedai

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    I was disappointed not to see Morgase but she was mentioned twice. Morgase is mentioned on p. 767, 3rd paragraph. It does not say if she is dead or alive. And I can't remember where I put my note on where she was mentioned again......
     
  13. Toral Delvar

    Toral Delvar Archivist Gaidin

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    When Mat gets Lan after Lan has killed Demandred, and Narishma is there, Narishama is described as the "Kandori Asha'man" in Mat's PoV
     
  14. Lenore Carvoe

    Lenore Carvoe Aes Sedai

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    It's mentioned - from one of Lan's POVs - that the Borderlanders started to choose their own nationalities. Not only "ordinary" Borderlanders to Malkieri but also inbetween. He mentions, that Narishma chose to be a Kandori instead of remaining Arafellin.

    Probably something I just missed or forgot, but: Why can Graendal be "reborn" in the ugly Hessalam, when she was wiped out from the Pattern with balefire, when Rand balefired her castle entirely?

    It's mentioned several times, that Channelling is bonded to the soul of a character. Why can't Rand channel any more in his Moridin body then? Note that he doesn't even miss it, so he didn't burn out at Shayol Ghul.

    The number of Aes Sedai still alive and kicking after the Sharan ambush. It's said, they lost 2/3 of the army. So how can they still face more than 400 trained Sharan channellers and Demandred and Taim with his cronies and Black Ajah?
     
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  15. Eluial Aldaran

    Eluial Aldaran A real gaydin Aes Sedai

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    First one, I don't remember enough details to know what you're getting at.

    Second one, she escaped Rand's balefire by realizing at the last moment what he was about to do and escaping via gateway. I forget if/when she otherwise dies or what the circumstances of her ugly rebirth were, though.

    Third one, it's suspected that Rand burned himself out during the last confrontation, which would carry over to his new body.

    Fourth one, don't remember enough details to know if there's something funny going on there or not.
     
  16. Lenore Carvoe

    Lenore Carvoe Aes Sedai

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    I answered to Toral's post. :lol

    For Graendal: If she fled via gateway she must have lifted the compulsion on the man at the same time, too. Doesn't sound doable to me.

    For Rand: I don't think so, that's why I pointed out that he didn't even miss anything - unlike every other channeler who faced burning out/gentling/stilling.

    For the Aes Sedai: They must have been outnumbered at least thrice by the Sharan channellers only after the first ambush.
     
  17. Eluial Aldaran

    Eluial Aldaran A real gaydin Aes Sedai

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    Oh -- I see, you were responding to the post right above yours. lol! Oops!

    The Graendal one is the only one I can give a firm answer to. It's all in her PoV in the beginning of book 13. She had Halima (one of the 'Gars -- I get them confused) and a black ajah Aes Sedai in her palace when Rand sent the messenger. She had the Aes Sedai put the compulsion on. At the last second, she realizes what Rand is about to do (cause she looks through the eyes of a bird at him), puts a shield on Halima and the Aes Sedai, and jumps through a gateway. The other two are killed, the compulsion is lifted, and she survives.

    For Rand, that's a good point, it's not described as him feeling like he was severed. But maybe it's just special cause of the way everything went down. I don't know. But I feel pretty certain saying that it wasn't a mistake. There's just probably more to it that we aren't told.
     
  18. Lenore Carvoe

    Lenore Carvoe Aes Sedai

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    Ah yes, I really had forgotten that part about Graendal. Thanks.
     
  19. Elorenya d'Rahien

    Elorenya d'Rahien Aes Sedai

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    I don't think this was actually Egwene's point of view here -- I think it's Silviana interpreting her reaction and, more or less, putting words in Egwene's mouth.

    ...

    A long while ago in the books -- around book 5 -- one of the Wise Ones told Rand outright, "The Aiel are your dream now; [some of us fear that?] when you wake from this life, we will be no more." I don't have the exact quote handy, but his phrasing is nearly identical so it should be easy to search for if you want to.

    ....

    She's mentioned way late in the book, in Ila the Tinker's point of view, as supervising the Tinkers and others searching through the dead for the living.

    ....

    I suspect he doesn't miss it because he's been through a hell of a lot lately and is happy to be done with his burdens. His ability to channel is, to him, intimately tied to his status as The Dragon Reborn (for obvious and understandable reasons) -- losing one meaning losing the other makes perfect sense, and he's probably at peace with it. So... why miss it?
     
  20. Murun

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    Thank you, Elorenya - so he remembers what he had been told. Makes sense.