The 3rd Age next time around

Discussion in 'Wheel of Time Discussion - Books 1-14' started by Paladin Brewer, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. Paladin Brewer

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    I'm curious to how things change the next time the 3rd age hits. For example, Rahvin was balefired so he can't be reborn. So is there one less Forsaken the next time around, or does someone else take his place? Does that mean no one will be there to seduce the Queen of Andor, so Elayne will not become Queen? Lots of plot changes on that one.
     
  2. Caliden Al'Waes

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    I thought each age was different, the only thing that is the same is the name being reused. And we've seen that the DO has no problems with accepting new members to the forsaken, so who is to say that come the next age of Legends that he doesn't go recruiting? But I think that Rand's solution to the bore has stopped the DO forever and ever and ever. So we don't really have to worry about that one. Yes, the forsaken will be out there still (The ones who are not dead) but eventually someone will get them, or they will be killed.
     
  3. Axis m'Troutilas

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    Balefire is not the death of the soul.

    Anyone who is balefired goes onto the normal cycle of rebirth.
     
  4. Tazren Talamar

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    I am fairly sure that it's said somewhere that every turning of the wheel brings slight changes to what happens. So, the next time an Age comes around, it will be very similar as the previous time it occurred, but not identical. And then, after many many turnings, the Age in question would be very, very different.
     
  5. AnAnonymousWOTFan

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    This.

    Just gotta have faith in the Wheel like Moiraine, I guess.
     
  6. Alkeis Cha'ane

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    ... i wonder what the purpose of hte wheel is :O is it making something grand or just a forever spinning device :p
    maybe its crafting a ultimate pattern... for someday :O
     
  7. Quinlan Isindil

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    Ultimately I would guess that with the bore sealed, it's ready for Mierin to poke a hole in it again.
     
  8. AnAnonymousWOTFan

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    Hopefully one day the Pattern will smarten up and weave such that Mierin doesn't do that.... maybe this Second & Third Age was a hiccup in the Wheel, because I couldn't imagine the Wheel intentionally weaving towards its own destruction.
     
  9. Sorcha Al'Verdan

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    Unless of course, it needs to in order to provide momentum to keep turning...
     
  10. AnAnonymousWOTFan

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    Why would opening the Bore give the Wheel momentum? If it is a non-spatial object, it shouldn't lose any while spinning.
     
  11. Sorcha Al'Verdan

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    Who's to say that there aren't other things causes of 'friction' that might effect the cosmic momentum? Perhaps the fabric of Time itself provides the friction. (I'm speaking in these terms because it is easily relatable, not because I believe the Wheel has physical form)

    It occurs to me that the balance of the wheel of time is more of a study in contrast - there is no good without evil to define it as such, etc. perhaps there is no wheel unless it allows for the chance to be destroyed...
     
  12. Kiranthus Solaron

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    I agree. I feel the wheel moves between the DO and the hinted at Earth Mother (see nakomi theories). It weaves between the forces of life and death. I like the concept that it tries to weave in the middle of the two forces and auto corrects when it gets too close to either the DO breaking free or an age making a true permanent eutopia. In the end it will always keep spinning, but it is is moved naturally by the flows of mortal choices. Remember even the DO really doesnt want to end the wheel, he just wants the complete control over how it is woven.
     
  13. Alkeis Cha'ane

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    ......... maybe thiers many wheels, maybe for every alternate world the portal stone leads to is a seperate wheel occupieing space adjacent to each other like seeds in a garden, maybe the darkone is sort of like the soil or a bacteria in the soil :/
    just a wierd thought since lews therin/rand actualy compared the universe to that at one point :/ err the world*