Search results

No no no, I said earlier that Chaos and Evil are different things. There's a lot of overlay but Chaos itself isn't evil. The Forsaken are usually told to do whatever they want as long as it promotes chaos though. And the fact that it's not WoT as we know it is why I support the theory. As...

Exactly. I just feel that if it was as clear cut as Good vs Evil then there would have been no reason NOT to end the DO. And that's why it wasn't alluded to earlier. No one had considered the possibility that the DO had an aspect that the world needed in order to function properly. That's...

Because the Wheel pretty much decides your life for you. It has to in order to organize all the other threads involved to make a Pattern that works. Without even a little bit of chaos, lives would be SO ordered that as I've said, no one would actually have to think for themselves. They would...

What I'm saying is that it's a lack of choice that Rand sees in the world without the DO. Not the lack of evil. Evil is a conscious choice. The chaos that the DO embodies is what gives us the ability to choose evil. The pattern's balance against good is tragic death, divorce, perhaps your...

Ok fair enough, I shouldn't have made it sound like he wasn't evil, because that's not what I'm trying to get across. He's about as evil as evil gets. I just meant that the fight itself is better classified as Order vs. Chaos for this debate. The world could exist without evil...

Some things can be inferred and do not have to be directly mentioned. There is no way I'm going through all of that again lmao. Again it's a difference of opinions, anyway. I don't think it will be resolved. I for one, know that I'm pretty stubborn when it comes to my opinions on things...

The DO is chaos. Evidence can be found throughout the series. Shaidar Haran's scenes with the Forsaken are a good example. And no, THAT itself doesn't mean the Pattern is order, but the Pattern weaves what is essentially the tapestry of Fate. Everyone has their place in that tapestry, and...

Took a while scanning but I finally found it. Alright so the way I see it, the DO is the manifestation of chaos. The shadow actually has more choice than the light. Maybe not to PICK the shadow necessarily, but generally they can do as they wish as long as it promotes chaos and destruction...

I am starting to have trouble following all the twists, turns and loop-the-loops involved lol can anyone remind me which variation involved no DO. I seem to remember elayne in the garden but what else happened in that world?

Brandon isn't allowed to talk about Nakomi as far as I know :P I think she's always supposed to be a mystery. I tend to lean towards the theory that she is an agent of the Creator myself, although that does somewhat conflict with some personal theories regarding the Dragon. I've seen some say...

Yes! I am indeed. And I think I might use that title for something. It is pretty awesome haha And nahh let's keep this progressive. I'm interested to know what other people thought of Cadsuane somehow knowing Rand was alive though :p

Ahahaha I don't mean THAT kind of philosophy. That's never a good idea :P Just the difference in opinions about the Dark One being basis of all evil versus the Dark One being an added evil to a world already inflicted with evil. Which I suppose is what your debate was really about now that...

Hm, well I did read some of the debate earlier, and maybe you're right. Being raised Christian I always thought of it as the Creator vs the Devil, so I just kind of read it that way all along. I could see how someone might not think of it in the same terms though. I almost want to get all...

I don't think it goes against EVERYTHING that was written. Rand planned to break the seals and reforge them anew longer than he planned to actually kill the DO, and like I said, eliminating ALL that is evil would leave a pretty messed up world. The hero always kills the bad guy, I felt this new...

I think the ending was pretty much the only way it could go. It's something I used to complain about with the original Star Wars trilogy. Bringing balance isn't eliminating all the bad. That's hardly a balance. I'm not sure how I felt about the epilogue. The whole riding off into the sunset...