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Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 22-28 Just so, Mai. I really enjoy the moment when she considers Mat, that makes me chuckle every time.

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 15-21 I think you're on the right track there, Imzadi Sedai. A war with Illian is the one thing the Tairens want more than anything. So he hands that to them for a handful of reasons: It'll appease the Tairens; The Tairens will focus on that...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 Talene is "broken", but remember how she could only reveal old plots and mostly useless information. She was able to out some members, but it seems like there's something holding her back from revealing everything. There's a line about...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 You're right about it being seriously overthought either way, Megana Sedai. The Binding Rods were made before the White Tower and the Three Oaths, since the making of ter'angreal was lost during the Breaking. That's a good battle scene...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 That's very curious, isn't it? We know a bit about the making of ter'angreal; the shape, materials, and design all have to be absolutely precise to maintain function. The tiniest diversion from the original piece creates changes in the...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 I'm assuming they were somewhat common in the Age of Legends. There's a comment by Semirhage about how the Aes Sedai gave her an ultimatum: either sever her, or make her take a binding that would keep her from conducting her "experiments"...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 I never considered the Black Ajah having their own Binding Rod, Aduiavas Sedai! This is a great possibility, that the Supreme Council of the Black Ajah managed to find their own somewhere over the years. With everything that's come to...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 Very good points, Mother and Maibella. Especially about Aes Sedai who become Black Ajah before having the ageless look, and the shortened life-span. Hmm, these points sway me much closer to a 50-50 split. There is also the possibility that...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 The ageless face with Black Ajah has always been a sticking point for me, Mother. You provide good points and food for thought, but I still don't think the Oath Rod is what specifically binds the Black Ajah to secrecy. Unfortunately...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 My pleasure Imzadi Sedai :).

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 Yeah, his nasty snarling comment to "Mierin" is the first conscious dollop of crazy wisdom. There certainly isn't any hint of it in the first two books, I'm sure of that much. From what we know later, for the taint to manifest in Rand, he...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 Although I can't think of any evidence to back this up, my best guess is some sort of ritual sacrifice. Either that or going into Shayol Ghul and swearing the oaths right at the Bore. Or both.

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 About the Black Ajah oaths, Mother (This excerpt is from The Gathering Storm): By the way, I'm glad you're back with us Mother. Our read-along loses focus without your guidance and meticulous notes :p.

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 8-14 Chapter 8... Woo-hoo, we get Elayne as a viewpoint character :nono. Mat and Egwene, that's a good conversation, although I feel like he's planning to deliberately side-step his word, to avoid getting Moiraine involved. This is tied-in with...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 1-7 That's the point exactly. I can see why that would upset Faile.

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 1-7 Well, moving along... Chapter 2 Ah, the first bubble of evil... This is pretty messed-up, scary stuff. Perrin's battle with his axe is pretty symbolic, considering how he feels about the weapon. Faile has no logical reason to be upset...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 1-7 Imzadi Sedai, the reference there is what happened to his nephew Owyn. That's why he helped the boys in the beginning; then once he found out that Rand was a man who could channel, it made it even more personal. Edit: Ah, Aspirant Mai...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 1-7 I completely agree, Aduiavas Sedai. I would also add that the length of this chapter is similar to later prologues; significantly longer than a typical chapter.

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising Chapters 1-7 The first chapter is certainly quite busy. We get Min popping back into the story, with an emphasis on her viewings. I agree that Siuan doesn't seem to pay much heed to Min's warning, but in all fairness, what could she do about it? I think...

Re: 2015 Re-Readalong: The Shadow Rising starting June 14 Alright! I actually remembered a day early, so I can dig around and find this book! These big old paperbacks tend to get up and wander off on me... I wish it was hardcover like most of the WoT I have, much easier to read in bed. A...