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Interesting... Lanfear DID strike first... So I suppose once she striked, it would be considered self defense? That would make sense, but after that they fired at male forsaken, before they attacked, without knowing for sure who was channeling.

I have a question. I just finished my reread of WH for, like, the 3rd time, and at the scene at the end, Cadsuane and the rest are using the one power to fire in all directions, whereever they feel someone channeling... How is that possible? Without knowing who it is that used the power, aren't...

You mean that darkfriend lord that was hosting the party? That had the waygate in the back yard?

He did? :scratch I don't remember that at all... Also how was Rand a contributing factor to the civil war? Besides being a Ta'veren I mean.

I'm not sure it's fare to say he CAUSED the civill war... He was more a contributing factor :look

Why do you assume it was somehoe connected to that? :scratch I've just finished reading PoD two weeks ago, and I can't remember that mentioned.

Well we've already seen that, in part, I think. Remember PoD? While using the sword, Rand was indeed vulerable. So much so that he was pulled off his horse and flattened TWICE before he realized it happened. He was also channeling to places he didn't intend to.

Axis - indeed interesting. However, I suppose it's because people don't really see it as misteriouse. The flaw is pretty well understood. The Blade of Ruin is more of a RAFO then anything else, since Callandor isn't that much in the prophecies so we have no real way to start making up theories...

I doubt it. Despite what Aes Sedai in the books keep thinking, the prophecies have thus far been rather literal. It has hardly taken any sort of interpretation on the most part. Even things like putting Callandor back at the heart of the stone, which in the prophecies seemed poetic and...

I'm not sure how that's even relevant Midian... Please, enlighten me.

Well, I can't see how using the TP will make Rand weak... All of this is getting a little too much for one theory for me. I'm still gonna have to go with "disagree" on the Callandor and TP theory, and not really convinced about the rest yet. Even if Rand did miss something, we know that the part...

Are you kidding me? We're talking about Min here. If she thought he was wrong, she'd have told him in a heart beat. She always did, and always will. ALWAYS.

Actually, Rand had usually been spot on with this prophecies interpretations. Elaida is ALWAYS wrong, and so is Cadsuane, but Rand usually knew what he was talking about. He started reading the prophecies the moment he knew he was the Dragon Reborn (to Moirain's great displeasure), but he seems...

I think it only makes the idea that the 3 becoming one are the people in the circle more plausible. We've seen in the prophecies several times that tings are repeating themselves in different phrases.

Does it now? What if you don't use the water, but go directly to the fountain? Like we've seen in the DO's prison discussion, these metaphores used in the books are just that - metaphores. They are hardly a acurate description of things. But again, it doesn't really matter to me. It was just a...

Yeah... The people in this world believe all kinds of things, that doesn't make them true. And Aes Sedai HAD been wrong before... Often, as a matter of fact. What do you guys think about the "all will become one" line. Rather cryptic, I'd say. Can mean the three powers (though I doubt it, since...

I've been thinking about doing a lesson about the prophecies of the dragon, so I started reading and I found this. Accordingly: Healing wounds of madness COULD refer to the cleansing of Saidin.

Indeed, and the theory that the last battle will infact make time linear is not mine, but has been flowting around out there for a long time now. As for Avi's children - My guess is that Min's visions work in the same way. If Rand loses the last battle, then Min's visions about things later then...

We can only hope that it actually WAS part of the prophecies, just a part we haven't heard. There are a lot of such parts. And yes, I think the "flaw" in Callandor isn't a flaw at all... As I said before, if I had to take a wild guess with no backing, I'd say that Callandor will be used to...

How? Are you suggesting the the TP is NOT comming from the DO and therefor could be cleaned?