What do you think can be removed to create a good TV Series?

Discussion in 'Wheel of Time TV Show' started by Arion, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Arion

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    Does anyone agree with this person?

     
  2. Adanys Wynterwulf

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    He makes some good points, but some of the things are just him wanting things taken out or done entirely different because he does not like them :cheese
    It's his opinion, whatever. Just like these are mine.
    But cut the romances down to just "meaningful glances and direct action", I mean, that's kind of pointless I think. Yea drawn out romance plotlines can get exhausting, love triangles more so (IMO), and it takes FOREVER for some of these characters to decide to go for what (or who) they want. But to cut that entirely and just have them "take action"? I would personally not like that. Dial it down, sure. But his idea sounds a bit too extreme for me. Then again I've always kind of loved (or loved to hate) romantic buildup.

    Also, what zombie type things is he talking about? :scratch I'm drawing a blank

    And yes, focus on the relationship between the Black and the White Tower, explore it more if possible. Would leave to see the Asha'man and the BT get more screen time :)

    One huge plus of this video is his passion! I loved watching him talk about it. Just makes the idea of a TV show all the more exciting! :D
     
  3. Aduiavas Ida

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    I agree with him about the Morgase arc. That is one of the main things I feel can be safely removed as well...

    The romance I sort of disagree with. I agree that they need not be as much and as focused as in the books.

    DEFINITELY keep the Seanchan.
    DEFINITELY remove the most of the Perrin/Shaido arc.

    Adanys, I believe the "zombies" he refers to are the scenes at Hinterstap, in The Gathering Storm. And I agree that it is a fairly meaningless few chapters that are not at all necessary for the overall plot.
     
  4. Ilverin Matriam

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    CUT DOWN THE NUMBER OF FORSAKEN!!!! WHAT...IN THE... LIGHT D: I don't know why this shocked me the most, but I just can't see it.

    They cannot really cut out the Shaido and Perrin plot, because... well... they will have to think of a new plot for Perrin and they cannot just let him dissapear for a few seasons, that's just silly.

    I know they cannot cut out the Seanchan out, but that doesn't mean I have to like it :grumble
     
  5. Elanda Tonil

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    I love the Morgase storyline but I agree that it could pretty easily be cut without the story losing much.

    I would keep the early Shaido storyline but everything with Perrin/Faile and the Shaido I would be happy to see cut.

    In fact, I wouldn’t mind if they cut Faile altogether, but that might be too big of a change I guess.

    I would be happy if some of the romances were cut or condensed but I think reducing them all to glances or whatnot would be a mistake. Yes, they’re trying to prevent the end of the world, but when emotions are running high, all emotions tend to run high. I don’t think subtle glances would feel believable given the circumstances. I would be happy to see the Perrin/Faile and Egwene/Gawyn romances cut, and definitely the Egwene/Gawyn/Galad triangle cut. I would like the Mat/Tuon relationship to feel more believable, it just feels awkward to me in the books. Rand/Aviendha is the only of his relationships that feels natural to me. Min and Elayne just don’t have the right chemistry with him to me.

    They could probably cut a lot of Ebou Dar (keep the Kin of course).

    I definitely want them to keep the Nynaeve/Moghedien rivalry. That just makes me happy. ^^

    I also really like Perrin’s return home. I would be fine with it being changed some, but I want that homecoming to still happen.
     
  6. Aduiavas Ida

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    Yeah, I meant the Faile kidnapping part of the Shaido story...
    It can still "happen" but be mostly off screen ;)
     
  7. Jeffan Caliarthan

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    Thing I'm very okay with getting rid of:

    :|
     
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    Jeffan, I highly doubt we will get an exact replica of the books ;)

    And, honestly, I don't think it would be a good series, if EVERYTHING was done EXACTLY like the books. Some things works in books, not so much on the screen...
     
  9. Jeffan Caliarthan

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    (I was being sarcastic. :p)
     
  10. Elanda Tonil

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    :rofl
     
  11. Ilverin Matriam

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    I agree on all your points, Jeffan :lol
     
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    He makes a good case :lol

    If I don't see excessive dry washing of hands and smoothing of skirts that don't need smoothing, I'm gonna be vexed :| lol
     
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    Don't forget to fold your hands UNDER your breasts :look

    Anything else looks silly :lol
     
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    :rofl

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  16. Arion

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    Cut Faile and Perrin ?

    I think that storry is cool but a bit to long when Faile is taken by the shido.
     
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    Faile is my favourite character, I’d be sad if she was cut (I know I’m probably one of the only people who actually liked her character!)
     
  18. Leo Kian

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    I like Faile :) I do think the whole Perrin/Faile arc was too drawn out and needs to be cut down.

    I dislike Mat and wouldn't mind if his wanderings were reduced :look
     
  19. Tazren Talamar

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    I don't really dislike the Faile/Shaido arc. Perrin's hunt for her cut just be removed or cut down immensely, though.

    One of my favourite parts of the late middle books is the Black Ajah hunt in the White Tower, but that feels like something that could very safely be removed because it's not really super important as such. Feels given that it'll be removed. It would make me so happy to see it, though. Saerin and Seaine are awesome.
     
  20. Leo Kian

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    I agree with you on the Black Ajah hunters, Tazren. It was one of my favourite arcs.

    I was disappointed that the arc fizzled out, especially when the hunters were planning an attack on the Supreme Council. An argument for inclusion is that Seaine, Yukiri, Doseine and Saerin become supporters (a little too blindly and conveniently in my opinion) of Egwene later on and essentially allow her to deal with Rand as King of Illian - setting the stage for her perhaps more prominent role at Merrilor. It also gives a good introduction to Pevara who is important during the Last Battle. Of course I'm sure these can be found a way around but it all wraps together quite nicely :D