What did we not get to see in the books that you would like to see in the show?

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So with the show there is an opportunity to see more of the WoT Universe, there are many things that happen in the WoT Universe that we do not get to see On Page. It would seem from Season 1 AoL cold open that we are getting to see the time before the Breaking.

I understand time and budget (not so much) constraints. But if you could see something that we never got to see On Page what would it be? I would like to see:

  • The opening of the initial Bore and subsequent destruction of Collam Daan and the Sharom.
  • Lanfear publicly declaring for the Shadow.
  • Lews Therin humbling Ishamael in the Hall of Servants. (Would be good to have that set against the Battle in the Sky in Falme).
  • The creation of the first Shadowspawns by Aginor.
  • The Sealing of the Bore and the counterstroke (as we know it wasn't a counterstroke but the result of the DO touching Saidin).
  • The Seige of Tar Valon by the Armies of Hawkwing.
  • More of Damodred and the Sharans - specifically him killing the Jumara and retrieving Sakarnan.

So what would you like to see?
 

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I would love to see Balwer and Nory in all their clerical glory. But I bet they will be cut cause clerks always are viewed as boring.
I also want Luca's show to be as over the top as can be. Just full on 19th century "The greatest showman"
 
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I also want Luca's show to be as over the top as can been. Just full on 19th century "The greatest showman"
YES he better be flourishing that cloak!!! If people are not rolling their eyes every time he comes on screen, then Luca is not sufficiently Too Much.
 

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I was always disappointed we didn't get to see more of Thankan'dar.
I definitely want to see that "small village" that Asmodean visited that we got a small glimpse of. I want to see the full dismal nature of that to really sell it.
 

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I'd be up for more of Tigraine. Also I can't recall how much of the Sea Folk-Seanchan naval battle is 'seen' in the books, but I'd love to see a huge setpiece there.
I also want Luca's show to be as over the top as can be. Just full on 19th century "The greatest showman"
I wouldn't be opposed-- given that the show isn't exactly following the books to the letter anyway--to a musical episode based around this.
 

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I want to see Mat’s fight with Couladin.

I want to see the spears all chanting Wash the Spears! Reading about it is cool, but I want a scene like the uruk-hai outside of Helm’s Deep slamming their spears in unison, but with veiled Aiel chanting Wash the Spears.

I’d like to see more of a progression of ability from the main characters but I doubt that’s going to be the case, in fact I expect the opposite. We haven’t seen Rand practicing the sword at all, that I can recall right not. We have seen Nynaeve and Egwene instinctively perform feats they wouldn’t have been able to do at the end of the book series. I wish they had given us a more believable lead up to Rand taking out Turak and so on, but I’m not holding my breath for it.

If they cut Hopper I’m gonna be cranky. I’ve gotta see Hopper soar.
 

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If they cut Hopper I’m gonna be cranky. I’ve gotta see Hopper soar.
What if we've seen Hopper, but because there's no voice talent for him he's not credited?
 

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I need Hopper with a name, and acting in explicitly Hopper-ly ways. :look:
I forget which episode, but doesn't a wolf chase Perrin out of a Dream? That's right up Hopper's alley.
 
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Yeah I think we have seen Hopper - in the books we see Hopper a few times before we know who or what he represents.
 

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That wolf definitely acted in Hopper-ly ways and I hope that’s him. I just hope they give us real, explicit interactions with him. There are two or three scenes that make me cry on virtually every read through and Hopper showing Perrin how he soars is one of them. I don’t know how to give us book-Hopper in a tv format without making it cheesy though (e.g. the wolves in the Twilight movies 😬), so we’ll see how it goes.
 
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That wolf definitely acted in Hopper-ly ways and I hope that’s him. I just hope they give us real, explicit interactions with him. There are two or three scenes that make me cry on virtually every read through and Hopper showing Perrin how he soars is one of them. I don’t know how to give us book-Hopper in a tv format without making it cheesy though (e.g. the wolves in the Twilight movies 😬), so we’ll see how it goes.

I think they need a really good voice actor for Hopper. Hopper protecting Perrin and some of the other wolves sacrificing themselves as well is awesome. I think if I was them I might wait and reveal Hoppers "voice" at the time of his death or at some other pivotal moment.

I can definitely get on board with some good Hopper scenes.
 

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I think they need a really good voice actor for Hopper. Hopper protecting Perrin and some of the other wolves sacrificing themselves as well is awesome. I think if I was them I might wait and reveal Hoppers "voice" at the time of his death or at some other pivotal moment.

I can definitely get on board with some good Hopper scenes.
I could see that (holding off on his voice until after his death) and could get behind it. The wolf dream’s flexibility will give them a lot more leeway to make the interactions work.
 
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Yeah they can do Hopper really well I think, but if they don't do it well it will just be really corny. They also need some way to show Perrins changing physical abilities (that's easy with his eyes - say for example you just have it from a Perrin poV and just sort of zoom in and maybe tint the image Golden) but I think showing Perrins sense of smell might be difficult. It is also kind of important because it is often a factor for Perrins behaviours and confusion - he sees peoples outward presentation but can smell their feelings (like Faile being angry but calm on the surface) - not sure how they can show that.
 

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle all of Perrin's extra abilities. I don't envy the people who need to translate it from book format to visual, because that's going to be a tough one.

I hope we get the spar between Mat, Gawyn, and Galad from book 3. Mat's "escape" sequence from Tar Valon there is one of my favorite parts of the entire series. It's so Mat.
 

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How Elayne got powerful enough in the Seanchan camp to be considered on Accepted level. :look: I love Elayne, but...artistic license, I guess. :laugh:
 
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How Elayne got powerful enough in the Seanchan camp to be considered on Accepted level. :look: I love Elayne, but...artistic license, I guess. :laugh:

Wasn't this more to do with potential Strength than actual Strength? I think female channelers can strength Potential as opposed to Male channelers who have no idea unless the other Channeler is actively Channeling.

Do you think that could be the explamnation?
 
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle all of Perrin's extra abilities. I don't envy the people who need to translate it from book format to visual, because that's going to be a tough one.

I hope we get the spar between Mat, Gawyn, and Galad from book 3. Mat's "escape" sequence from Tar Valon there is one of my favorite parts of the entire series. It's so Mat.

Oh I so want to see Mat kick their butts with his Quarterstaff :)

The way it plays out in the books is perfect, Mat is pretty much still really ill and still gives them both a whomping.

Would also be nice to see the Gholam falling into the Skimming portal :) I hope they do the Gholams justice - they are bloody terrifying.
 
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