The fate of the Keepers

Maianel Istor

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We know what happened to Leane when Siuan was deposed, but does canon say anything about what happened to the Keepers for Tetsuan and Bonwhin?
 

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Just checked the wiki, the companion, and the big white book. I can't find any mention at all of either of their keepers, much less their fates.
 

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Thanks! I had looked at the wiki, but I don't have the companion or the white book anymore. I suspected there probably wasn't any info on the Keepers, but I figured someone here would know!
 

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A thought. Alviarin at one point was shamed as Elaida's Keeper. By extension her Ajah, so I suppose it depends on the relationship between Keeper and Amyrlin. If the Keeper is loyal to the Amyrlin, chances are she joins in the punishment. If she sides with the Hall or her Ajah, the sentence may be lighter. It's a guess, but given the secrets, the two women keep my guess is it's a shared punishment.


(And lovely to "meet" you Marie. I am also a fan! :pleased-1:)
 

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Thanks, Ariadne Sedai!

And yeah, I think it's quite likely that the Keeper suffers some sort of fall. Losing that rank, most certainly; penance of some kind, quite possibly. I'd be a bit surprised if both Keepers were stilled alongside Tetsuan and Bonwhin -- it could happen, sure, but that's extreme enough that I would like to think the Hall would need evidence of active collusion before they meted out that kind of punishment.

(This, like many of the questions I'll be randomly posting here, is sparked by the tabletop game I'm hoping to run someday. I'm going to set it in the time Hawkwing, Bonwhin, and Guaire Amalasan, and so things like "what will happen to Bonwhin's Keeper?" will be relevant.)
 

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If we know Tetsuan and Bonwhin even a bit, which we do, we would believe that they both chose a Red Keeper, who supported their agenda, therefore yeah, Keepers probably was stilled with their Amyrlin. :look:
 

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If we know Tetsuan and Bonwhin even a bit, which we do, we would believe that they both chose a Red Keeper, who supported their agenda, therefore yeah, Keepers probably was stilled with their Amyrlin. :look:

Hmmm, I'm not sure I would automatically say the Keeper was actively involved in what went down. In Bonwhin's case it's more probable; in Tetsuan's case, what she did arose so thoroughly out of a personal grudge that her Keeper may well have been innocent of collusion/have tried to argue her out of it/etc.

But it's all speculation, if canon doesn't say!
 

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Well, I have to agree that Tetsuan's Keeper may have been innocent. But probably her Keeper was a Red too.
 

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I don't think anything happened to them other than being relegated back to normal sister, personally.
 
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We know how the Tower handles things-traditionally. Traditionally, the Keepers (as far as we know) are stilled with the Amyrlins.
 
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