tEotW: The Prologue

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  1. Maple al'Tree

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    **SPOILERS BELOW, DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE PROLOGUE YET**

    I always find myself re-reading this. It captivated me so much when I first read it. Does anyone else love this? The opening sounds so beautifully written to me:

    "The palace still shook occasionally as the earth rumbled in memory, groaned as if it would deny what had happened. Bars of sunlight cast through rents in the walls made motes of dust glitter where they yet hung in the air. Scorch-marks marred the walls, the floors, the ceilings. Broad black smears crossed the blistered paints and gilt of once-bright murals, soot overlaying crumbling friezes of men and animals which seemed to have attempted to walk before the madness grew quiet." ... :bow

    One thing that I did notice on my last re-read, which I guess I never had before, and which I found kind of funny, is that Elan Morin is wearing thigh-high boots! yes, he is :giggle I guess they are turned down at the tops, so maybe they are more knee length which would be less showy..

    I am also still not clear on some of what Elan Morin mentioned, or maybe I have forgotten, so I would really like to hear any thoughts/discussion on the meaning of these topics:

    Lews Therin:
    -stood first among the servants
    -he wore the Ring of Tamyrlin
    -he sat in the High Seat
    -he summoned the Nine Rods of Dominion
    -he humbled Elan Morin in the hall of the servants
    -he defeated Elan Morin at the Gates of Paaran Disen


    I have read up to Knife of Dreams and am okay with spoilers. Mostly I think I need my memory jogged, it has been a few years since I've read the books
     
  2. Aduiavas Ida

    Aduiavas Ida Aes Sedai Mistress of Revels - Europe Forum Moderator

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    Yes, the Prologue here is beautifully written :) I always love it, and I keep coming back to it :)
    I remember when a friend of mine first pushed this book on me. Three pages into that Prologue, and I was hooked :D
     
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    Aduiavas Ida Aes Sedai Mistress of Revels - Europe Forum Moderator

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    As for the things we mentioned, hardly any of that is ever confirmed, or even mentioned again after this Prologue :( That Lews Therin humiliated Elan Morin/Ishamael/Moridin and defeated him is nearly certain.
    Being First among the Servants are probably some sort of leader among the Aes Sedai. Tamyrlin is probably the Age of Legends Amyrlin, but we don't know if it is for men or for both, or if it was a female counterpart. High Seat can be some non-channeling leadership, or more of the same as the above...
    Nine Rods of Dominion is unknown, many theories abound ;)
     
  4. Ryu Shadowborn

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    Remember Aes Sedai translates as "Servant of all" Lews Therin Teleman was the leader of the Aes Sedai pre-taint so he "stood first" among the "Servants of all."

    Obviously where Amyrlin as leader of the Aes Sedai came from, very possibly the origin of the rings the Aes Sedai wear.

    -he sat in the High Seat

    Obviously Pre-White tower Amyrlin seat analouge

    Oath Rod (s)

    We see that the Aes Sedai in the current age have a hall, this is likely a hold over from the pre-breaking government.

    That we don't get a lot of detail into.
     
  5. Aduiavas Ida

    Aduiavas Ida Aes Sedai Mistress of Revels - Europe Forum Moderator

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    Nine Rods of Dominion can be some Oath Rods yes, but I don't think that has been confirmed anywhere :look
     
  6. Axis m'Troutilas

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    Actually it's a common misconception.

    the nine rods of dominion are actually people, they are basically regional governors. "Summoning the nine rods of dominion" basically means calling a meeting of high ranking officials.


    the oath rods are known as binders, used for ensuring no severe criminals don't repeat their crimes.
     
  7. Ryu Shadowborn

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    Well my bad.
     
  8. Aduiavas Ida

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    Well, yes, that makes more sense...
     
  9. Axis m'Troutilas

    Axis m'Troutilas Gaidin

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    It's okay. The Guide often screws people up on this, so it's a very common mistake.

    But RJ thankfully answered this at Dragoncon in 2005.

     
  10. Ryu Shadowborn

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    Oh no I never looked it up I just went with logic.

    "Nine rods of Dominion."

    "Oath rod..that has a number on it..which nobody knows what it means."
     
  11. Maple al'Tree

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    Thanks so much for clearing some of that up for me. I thought it was the oath rods too :$

    Do the ruins of the castle still exist somewhere? I can't remember if it was mentioned again in the books.

    I also really like the name Ilyena. If I had a little daughter I would name her Ilyena or Aviendha.
     
  12. Ryu Shadowborn

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    Nah the castle got Wrathed, remember the Weave that Lews Therin killed himself with was the one that created Dragonmount.
     
  13. Aduiavas Ida

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    But he Travelled away from the castle before he did that, didn't he?
    Anyway, I don't think the castle still exists, it is said repeatedly that almost all the world changed in the Breaking, so any rubble still standing could be underwater or buried...
     
  14. Axis m'Troutilas

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    He did indeed Travel,

    It's referenced really quickly, but he heads out to wilderness (where you get to see his ability to sense if anyone is around for leagues. Something that slipped by me the first couple times I read the first book)

    Funny to think that Ishamael was the first person to stand on the new island of Tar Valon


     
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  15. Maple al'Tree

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    You are right, it was probably tossed about by all the fighting Aes Sedai.

    I also noticed in my last read that Ishamael was the first person to stand on Tar Valon. I don't know why I never noticed before.

    I never heard of the tv trailer for the prologue until recently, and I just watched it on youtube. I thought it was so bad. They didn't even try to follow the chapter.