Sealed With Blood Red Wax

Discussion in 'Wheel of Time Discussion - Books 1-14' started by Marcia Quadrarin, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. Re-reading ToM, I counted up that four people were seen to have received notes sealed with red wax - Mat, Alana, Rand, and Galad. We know what Mat's note said, now. What are opinions on the other three? All from Verin? What could she have wanted from Galad? What could she have said to Rand?
     
  2. Venric Methalion

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    I believe the letter she sent to Rand led him to returning Ituralde's king, who had been taken by the Aes Sedai for his protection.

    This thread has some discussion on what Alanna's letter may have contained -
    http://www.tarvalon.net/phpbbforum/view ... =36&t=6835

    I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned what Galad's may have regarded yet. Now I wish I had my book on me, because I'm kind of curious to re-read for hints. :D
     
  3. i have the last four books.( the others being at my parents) can you tell me what scene mentions Galad's letter?
     
  4. Leo Kian

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    I can't remember Galad getting a letter but I would imagine it warned him of the Trolloc attack. Doesn't look like he read it!
     
  5. ToM, chapter 44 "A Backhanded Request", p 659. It is just before Morgase and Tallanvor's wedding. Galad and Berelain are walking toward Perrin.

    "Galad was tucking something into his pocket. A small letter, it appeared, with a red seal. Where had he gotten that? He looked troubled, but his expression lightened as he arrived."
     
  6. Gedhan Audax

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    I'm wondering when Galad got his letter. This seems a little late to be wondering about it, after all the business with Perin is all done and dusted, but How the hell did Verin manage to track down where Galad would be at a given time or has the time slip between story lines caught me off guard again?
     
  7. Bryce al'Mara

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    I don't know where he got it from but he looked worried which makes me wonder.
     
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    I figure darkfriends could have told her where he was or where he was going. :) And if not that, I've always speculated that she was that dreamer she mentioned to Egwene (Corrianan... sp?) anyway, the point being she may have still had access to the world of dreams. However it's far more likely a dark friend clued her in.
     
  9. Right now we don't know how many letters Verin actually wrote. We can also be confident that Verin didn't know where Perrin was, because she didn't know which of them was preventing her from creating a gateway in TGS. So with that in mind, this is as close to a timeline as I have been able to recreate:

    1. Mat meets Verin and see's several letters.
    2. Mat goes to Caemlyn through a Verin gateway (assuming Verin went there also).
    2a. I'm going to assume that Verin passes off a letter to someone in Caemlyn for Galad
    2b. I'm going to assume that Verin passes off a letter to someone to give to Alanna
    2c. Verin passes off a letter to Tiana in the rebel camp to give to Rand
    3. Verin talks to Egwene and passes off her books, Verin dies
    (Rand does his standing on dragonmount thing)
    4. Someone gives the letter to Alanna, she takes off
    5. Tiana gives the letter to Rand at the tower (4&5 are close together, but I think Alanna left the night before Rand went to the White Tower unless he took his time getting back to Tear)
    6. When Perrin sends people back to Caemlyn someone comes through the gate and gives the letter to Galad (they were bringing food back anyway, and Mat had time to come through the gateway also)

    That's as close to the timeline as I can figure, but that assumes we've seen all the letters she wrote.
     
  10. Lyixn al'Yari

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    If Verrin knew that a massive army of shadowspawn was about to attack Andor, chances are she was aware of a plot to attack Perrin with an army+channellers. She knew a fair bit about portal stones too. I'd guess there are at least one or two darkfriends in the whitecloak army as well.

    Chances are the letter contained information about his mother, and his relationship to Rand. That has to come out in the wash sooner or later.
     
  11. I don't think Verin had a lot of knowledge about the attack on Perrin. Gren-lady didn't even decide that was the best course of action until Mor-guy put her on the spot and gave her the dreamspike. The storyline timelines are way out of wack at this point in time, but I think that Verin was busy waiting for Mat to show up during this time. Remember that the window Verin was setting up for herself to meet Mat was only about 10 days long (if she didn't kill herself), and that's close to how long Perrin was tied up with the whitecloaks before Rand was up on Dragonmount. While Verin is well informed, I don't think Gren-lady was busy sharing her plans with any darkfriend she came across.
     
  12. I'm with Gerrok Gaidin. Verrin could not have known where Galad was. Most likely the letter was left with an eyes and ears in Caemlyn.

    But I do agree with Lyixn in that it most likely told Galad of Rand being his brother. Galad looked troubled not worried Bryce Gaidin. His own brother the Dragon Reborn?!?!

    Verin had plenty of time while an "apprentice" with the Wise Ones to ferret out Rand's origin. For someone who joined the Black Ajah with out really being a dark friend, while convincing the rest of the Tower that she wasn't of the Black...well it was probably child's play.
     
  13. GMDamodred

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    erm, i think i may have seen this but have completely forgotton. When did we find out Rand and Galad were brothers and does Rand know?
     
  14. Leo Kian

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    They share a mother, Tigraine who was Daughter-Heir of Andor married to Taringail Damodred, they had Galad and then she went to the Waste met the clan chief and had Rand.
     
  15. Yea, Rand knows. Just as he knows he and Elayne are technically cousins. Although so distant that it real doesn't matter.
     
  16. Gedhan Audax

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    The When bit was first hinted at when Rand learned of his parentage from the wise ones and then confirmed in Caemlyn with the answers he received about Queen Tigraine, his mother. This should be in "The Shadow Rising" and "Lord of Chaos" or possibly "The Fires of Heaven" memory is a little vague there.
     
  17. thanx Marcia quadrarin for the info...... as to the letter i believe it says your Rand's brother, but i don't see how Verin could have gotten it to him. we know Min forsaw Berelain falling for Galad and it appears Galad just read the letter. which indicate's that he just recieved the letter, and he was in the presence of Berelain. perhaps Min gave the letter to Berelain or Galad got it from his recent trip to Andor. who's to say every letter is from Verin.
     
  18. Nygma

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    I wonder if Galad's had to do with darkfriends among the Children. Wasn't Asunawa a darkfriend? The High Inquisitor is pretty high up to be infiltrated.
     
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    So, the common theory is that one of Verin's dying letters was simply to tell Galad that the Dragon Reborn was his brother? That seems a little unimportant to me, what with her imminent death and all.

    Seems more likely that it would be about Darkfriend Whitecloaks, or perhaps something about what she thinks he ought to do with the Whitecloaks (though I'm not sure how she would know to give the letter to him in either case...). I think at some point he's going to have to actually admit that not all Aes Sedai are "witches". Her letter may have been something to get him to admit it.
     
  20. Leo Kian

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    I'm sure there are a few people who could tell Galad and Rand are brothers, so that seems unlikely. Maybe this letter is a blood red herring :look