Recent Developments!

Discussion in 'Wheel of Time TV Show' started by Jeffan Caliarthan, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. Eliza Al'Shaw

    Eliza Al'Shaw Accepted

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,656
    Location:
    Devon, England
    Don't quote me on this, my understanding is the only change is, instead of starting with Rand's pov as he and Tam head to Emonds Field, the TV show will start with Moraine's pov, possibly starting with the prophecy she and Siuan heard. . . It's just a change of pov at the very beginning.
     
  2. Elania al'Manir

    Elania al'Manir Aes Sedai Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    7,855
    Location:
    Missouri
    I think they're trying to preserve some of the mystery for non-readers about who the Dragon Reborn is.
     
  3. Leala al'Dareis

    Leala al'Dareis Aes Sedai Community Care Coordinator Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Messages:
    13,188
    Location:
    Louisiana, USA
    Well, my thing about that is, in the anime fandom, there are some shows that you can tell you the main character is going to be, because they have the weirdest hair.

    Rand and his ginger self sticks out like a sore thumb in the Two Rivers. :lol
     
  4. Eliza Al'Shaw

    Eliza Al'Shaw Accepted

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,656
    Location:
    Devon, England
    Hahaha! so true *Ichigo flashbacks* :lol

    But my feeling is, it won't just be bout an element of "surprise" as too who the Dragon is. It's just a better way to open a TV series. The books work, but it starts fairly slowly, I mean, not really but we have such a short time to capture the new audience, introducing the power, Aes Sedai, Warders and a prophecy will get the easily distracted caught faster than one black coated rider on a country road. . . . :cheese
     
  5. Elania al'Manir

    Elania al'Manir Aes Sedai Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    7,855
    Location:
    Missouri
    Plus, especially with Amazon's new Lord of the Rings show, fans might see that as just trying to be a LotR copy. Which, to be fair, he did follow that model for the first book or two.
     
  6. Leala al'Dareis

    Leala al'Dareis Aes Sedai Community Care Coordinator Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    Messages:
    13,188
    Location:
    Louisiana, USA
    That's a good point. :) The point of a tv show is to make the fan base grow and attract new fans, so piecing it all together from different perspectives and angles is a good way to do that.

    He did, he did. :rofl I hope there's some kind of forgiveness, if that is how they start to see it. Tolkien kind of provided the model for stories and fantasy worlds for quite a chunk of the genre.
     
  7. Almira ni'Caldazare

    Almira ni'Caldazare Citizen

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2013
    Messages:
    1,097
    Location:
    OFallon, MO
    Lord of the Rings is a classic!!
    Every fantasy writer anywhere has taken something from Lord of the Rings!!
     
  8. Eliza Al'Shaw

    Eliza Al'Shaw Accepted

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,656
    Location:
    Devon, England
    Yes, people can't get picky about that. It's not like there are Elves and Hobbits and all. Not even real dragons!

    Also. . . There's a LotR show on Amazon???!!??!!!??
     
  9. Elania al'Manir

    Elania al'Manir Aes Sedai Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    7,855
    Location:
    Missouri
  10. Eliza Al'Shaw

    Eliza Al'Shaw Accepted

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,656
    Location:
    Devon, England
    :fistbump thank you!
     
  11. Ryu Shadowborn

    Ryu Shadowborn Citizen

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2014
    Messages:
    1,032
    Re : Moraine being the focus.

    I don't like that choice, the "Mystery" of who the Dragon Reborn is, was that even supposed to be a Mystery at all? Unless they are going to do whole episodes dedicated to what Mat and Perrin are doing on Winternight it is pretty clear that Rand is the main character, and even then..only one of the 3 have a "World Shaking" revelation during that night.

    The Mystery of Moraine, her motivations and just how much trust the Trio should put in her was a far more interesting thing than Who Rand is..and ruining that by giving Moraine the spotlight will be a huge disservice to her as a character and the plot as a whole.
     
  12. Eliza Al'Shaw

    Eliza Al'Shaw Accepted

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,656
    Location:
    Devon, England
    You make a good point Ryu! I hadn't thought of the mystery of Moraine's motivations being removed spoiling that aspect for new viewers. It's been so long since I've read the start not knowing the who, what and why of her.

    Is this a defo change? I haven't been keeping up other than what's posted here so I don't know what's confirmed and what's rumour. . . :look
     
  13. Dnae Ila

    Dnae Ila Gaidin

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    10,858
    I started reading with New Spring, so I never got any mystery from Moraine. Maybe it would have been a different experience if I'd read in publication order? But I never felt like I missed out on something.
    Plus, I didn't realize that the action wasn't going to follow her through the rest of the series, so when EotW opened with Rand, I was too busy wondering about Moraine to get that he was the Dragon Reborn until way too late.
     
  14. Elania al'Manir

    Elania al'Manir Aes Sedai Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    7,855
    Location:
    Missouri
  15. Rollyn Montagorae

    Rollyn Montagorae Gaidin

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,819
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    Yep, with a September 2019 start of production, we should definitely start to see at least some casting news by the start of summer, maybe around June. Hopefully we'll get a fun summer as casting news starts trickling in. Then, if we're lucky, we'll get some publicity shots of actors or locations around July or August.

    Can't believe it's really happening!

    Exit question: Will we be able to stand it if they *really* mispronounce a name or term? Like what if they always refer to "SAY-DAR" for the Power or something? :p Or (nightmare zone), call her EGG-WEEN?
     
  16. Ryu Shadowborn

    Ryu Shadowborn Citizen

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2014
    Messages:
    1,032
    The Audio book had the Prologue with Dragonmount that ended with the bit of the Prophecies about the Dragon being reborn, and then Chapter 1 introduced us to Rand. I had no idea that there was supposed to be a mystery to Rand being the Dragon. I just thought it was a given that Rand was the Dragon.
     
  17. Dnae Ila

    Dnae Ila Gaidin

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    10,858
    I don't think it was supposed to be a mystery to the readers. I was just slow on the uptake.
     
  18. Toral Delvar

    Toral Delvar Archivist Gaidin

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2002
    Messages:
    3,454
    Location:
    Ann Arbor, MI, US
    It's hard to know how much it was supposed to be a mystery - We learn very early on that Rand was born outside of the Two Rivers, but offhand, I can't recall how early we are introduced to the prophecies of the Dragon
    We also see Perrin getting to talk to wolves, and Mat getting a magic dagger so it makes sense that Rand would get something as well.
    But, it's been almost 30 years since I first read book 1 and I can't remember if I thought it obvious at the time
     
  19. Rollyn Montagorae

    Rollyn Montagorae Gaidin

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2002
    Messages:
    1,819
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    I don't remember ever not thinking Rand was the main character. I sort of remember there being a tiny bit of ambiguity in the opening chapters, but even then it was more of "Is Rand *not* the main guy?" rather than "Who is the main guy?"
     
  20. Eluial Aldaran

    Eluial Aldaran Aes Sedai Head of the Brown Ajah

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2013
    Messages:
    13,385
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I think there's perhaps a bit of space between it being a legit, actual, headscratcher and there actually being a bit of dramatic tension. Yes, you, the savvy reader, know that OBVIOUSLY Rand is this Dragon fellow. But well, it's still a bit exciting to "discover" it as the books progress, is it not?