Pride & Prejudice

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  1. Alyria Savoinya

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    This book has been sitting on my shelf for 12 years and I finally read it.

    And now I'm in love with Mr. Darcy.

    Dammit.

    Anyone else?
     
  2. Juliya Karisu

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    Sign me up for this thread, although P&P is not my favourite Austen novel, I do love it a lot!!
     
  3. Gweny al'Kashmir

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    I own 10 different copies of P&P...it's my favourite!!
    You should watch the BBC version of it...cause Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy...YES PLEASE!!
     
  4. Loraella Melodie

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    I own several copies of P&P. :look

    When I was in year 10 (14-15 years old), it was one of the books we read in English lessons. And alongside reading the book, we also watched the 1995 BBC miniseries.

    I fell in love with Mr Darcy along with the rest of my class. Its been a 15 year and counting love affair. :D

    The BBC miniseries is my favourite adaptation, but the 2005 film version is also divine!

    I love Jane Austen. In terms of books, I actually slightly preferred Persuasion over P&P, but it has a special place in my heart and book shelf as it set me off on a path of reading classics and watching all period dramas I can get my hands on :giggle.
     
  5. Cursor Wrathwind

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    I honestly have never gotten the love for Darcy. Austen didn’t intend him to be a romantic hero—he’s actually of a d**k most of the time. I mean he kind of improves a little, but mostly his good qualities are just “is stupid rich, rich enough to throw enough money at problems like the Wickham situation until it goes away.” Like, the main appeal Darcy has for Lizzie is that it’s either marry him or a life of poverty. It’s not his actions that start to warm her up to him, it’s seeing how nice his estate is. He’s better than Wickham or Collins, but low bars and whatnot. In terms of being a good man, he’s vastly inferior to Bingley.

    And that’s kind of the point. Pride and Prejudice isn’t a romance. It’s a biting satire of women’s lack of agency in the era, a critique of some of ridiculous social mores of high society, and a scathing damnation of the fact that even for an intelligent, strong woman like Lizzie the options in life are basically “settle for marriage” or “off to the poorhouse you wretched woman!”
     
  6. Gweny al'Kashmir

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    I disagree...his action of writing the letter that explains two major actions on his part in better detail helped warm her up to him.
     
  7. Elia LePhant

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    Yeah the letter played a huge part but overall I agree with you. He's not super romantic buuuuut I love a stoic slowburn hero so I get his appeal in that regard. My favorite Austen gentleman though is Henry Tilney from NA. I'd dig him much more in JA times than any of her other men. :p
     
  8. Loraella Melodie

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    This.

    My love for Darcy is mostly due to P&P being the catalyst for me reading other Austen novels and other classics. It's a slow burn, he has his flaws but he has good points too. Like any person.
    Lizzie herself was very flawed. But I like the story and the characters and its stuck with me for over 15 years.
     
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    Mr. Darcy's not my favourite either; I am a total Mr. Knightley fan. Also love Henry Tilney in Northanger Abbey!

    I think Darcy changes for the better more than Lizzie.

    Have you ever seen/read Death Comes to Pemberley? I loved it and thought Matthew Rhys was great, and the relationship between Darcy and Lizzie seemed real to me.
     
  10. Gweny al'Kashmir

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    I have not...and now I need to locate it immediately!!
     
  11. Loraella Melodie

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    I've seen it, I thought it was an interesting take on what could have happened next.

    Captain Wentworth has always been one of my favourites (that letter! <3), along with Edmund Bertram. Wasn't really too keen on Mr Knightley though.
     
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    Captain Wentworth's letter is 100% the best romantic letter ever. :look Persuasion is my favorite JA novel.
     
  13. Loraella Melodie

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    The first time I read Persuasion I cried after reading that chapter. It's so beautiful.

    Damn, I'm going to have to go read it now, or watch the BBC adaptation :lol
     
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    I actually haven't read Persuasion yet! I should also get on that.
     
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    I love Darcy, but I think it's because of how Matthew MacFayden played him in the 2005 film. After she rejects him, the letter really makes her start to think about him and how she judged him, but he changed, too. The awkwardness between them when she visits Pemberley and the look on his face like he longs to spend more time with her, but can't because of social mores. And then he rushes over there as soon as he finds out that she didn't promise Lady Catherine that she won't marry him. They both develop as people and realize they were relying on preconceived notions of how they were supposed to feel about each other before pulling their heads out of their asses and figuring it out. He thought she was inferior because of her birth, lack of connections, the behavior of most of her family members, and whatever else he throws at her. She took the rumors she heard about him and the stories told by Wickham as truth and didn't even bother to find out the truth until he laid it all out for her after she rejected his proposal. The two of them were blinded idiots and both come to a turning point with that letter.

    I think I just rambled a bit, but I love that story. And, they made a film for Death Comes to Pemberley? I don't even remember how I got my paws on the book, but I thought it was very well written. I also recommend Mr. Darcy's Diary.
     
  16. Gweny al'Kashmir

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    Yessss...I love Matthew MacFayden's rendition of Darcy. :love