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Discussion in 'Non-WOT - Literature and Fiction' started by Zad Al'Keem, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. Zad Al'Keem

    Zad Al'Keem

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    There may already be a Malazan Thread. But a new one may start new conversation if the old one has maybe died.

    Anyways, I am nearly tot he end of the first book. I am loving it! Its a perfect follow up for finishing all of Sandersons works and all of Wheel of Time. I tried to re-read WoT and couldn't force myself to deal with Nyneave again. I just couldn't do it. So this works.

    But that is the general opinion of Malazan here? I tried reading the book 3 times. This is my fourth. I decided to just stick with it and plow onward. Im glad I did! My one worry is....the last book have some pretty low ratings. Is the series worth finishing?

    Is anybody else just starting the series or in the early parts? Or on a re-read?

    I know this is not a Malazan site. I just like this community better.
     
  2. Jeryn Lekar

    Jeryn Lekar testing bunny Gaidin

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    I'm on a re-read at the moment. I think it is definitely worth finishing the series.
     
  3. Kallarn Lo'Vosh

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    I read the malazans as they were released as one of my first forays into fantasy as id always been more a sci-fi type. I love them.

    I think reading in one go will be a lot easier as trying to remember some of the lesser characters as things go on got a little difficult with a year or twos gap in between books. Id definitely not say they get bad towards the end it all comes to a head and has a very good ending so definitely persevere.

    My favourite was definitely 'A Memory of Ice' but I also loved Midnight Tides for the comic relief story as well as the main overarching one.

    Id also recommend you read Ian C Esslemonts series afterwards since he co-created the world as its mostly following the same timeline as the book of the fallen but different events and characters, I really enjoyed most of those too.
     
  4. Lenore Carvoe

    Lenore Carvoe Aes Sedai

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    Definitely better in writing, world and character development than Jordan and Sanderson.
     
  5. Inanna Landred

    Inanna Landred Aes Sedai

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    I thought it was going to be about Malazan, book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson :p
     
  6. Jeryn Lekar

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    Oh look! It's Lenore complaining about something again. What a shocker! :look I really don't see how Sanderson and Jordan's books are relevant to the Malazan series. :|
     
  7. Inanna Landred

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    Right.. so I did understand correctly the first time.
    I must have been having a blonde moment when I thought you were talking about some book Sanderson wrote without me knowing.

    I LOVE Malazan. It's dark, it's gritty, it's infinitely complex and definitely worth reading all the way.
     
  8. Zad Al'Keem

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    Lol Sanderson is my first joy in reading. I will say that.

    JUST FINISHED GARDENS OF THE MOON!

    Not sure how I feel about the ending. His pacing was so up and down I found myself confused on how to take things. (If that makes sense). People say they other endings, aside from the ninth book, are amazing!

    I didn't like the battle between Anomander and the Demon Lord. It was short and didn't seem as grand.

    I know this was Ericksons debut. How markedly does his writing improve? I have deadhouse gates waiting on my kindle :D.

    Lastly. I do plan to read Esselmonts (spelt correctly?) books as I go throught he series. I know he fills in blanks between (and during) books.
     
  9. Kallarn Lo'Vosh

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    Id read all Eriksons THEN all Esslemonts personally as they are two separate stories.

    Gardens was the roughest (but I still loved it) so they do get better.
     
  10. Inanna Landred

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    Lets not forget the backdrop, world and characters were based on an long-running RP campaign, so the story was already quite mature before being put to paper.
    He deliberately decided against filling in all the blanks.
    It is definitely one of those hate-it-or-love it series. I for one am glad I stuck with it, but that was perhaps because I had forewarning that it would be a bumpy ride.
     
  11. Zad Al'Keem

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    I love the level of development that the world has. It feels more fleshed out than most. I know reading Jordan, and from the little of Martin I have read, It kinda feels like they made it up as they went. Which was fine. But I get a more solid "ok, we have a direction here, and this world is just as real as yours and mine." from this......Does that even make sense? o_O
     
  12. Jeryn Lekar

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    Zad: Yeah it makes sense due to what Inanna just said in the post before yours:

     
  13. Lenore Carvoe

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    Oh, sorry for not having Jordan and Sanderson at the first place in the book Olympus. :rolleyes

    He asked what the general opinion of Malazan was and I answered in comparison to Jordan and Sanderson. That was obviously too complicated for some of you.
     
  14. Inanna Landred

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    How dare you dis the Maker(s) :p
    :trout

    At the end of the day it's all super subjective. Writing and writing styles evolve and change and everyone will have a different opinion.
    I personally dislike the Tolkien stuff a great deal, it's just too "oldy-worldy" for me and far to descriptive, but I know there is a very large group of fans out there who will passionately disagree with me on that.

    Do keep us posted how you're getting on Zad, would love to hear what you think. :)
     
  15. Kallarn Lo'Vosh

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    Oi you leave Tolkien alone! :p
     
  16. Zad Al'Keem

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    When I was asked to describe Ericksons works to a new fantasy person. He is a Sanderson devout and he needs to be so fully entertained at all times that I warned him away from Jordan.

    I described it as a mix between Martin and Tolkien.....was this good?

    Started Deadhouse Gates. His pros are muuuuuuuuch better. You still start the book saying WTF who the heck are these and what the heck are they talkin about?! But it feels more smooth and the characters have more life almost automatically. And that prisoner scene in the prologue was one of the best written scenes I have ever read!!!

    (I read fantasy and try fantasy like im at a wine tasting....I just steal my favorite bottles and devour them at home!....I don't drink alcohol..:drunk)
     
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  17. Axis m'Troutilas

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    I'm still stuck half way through deadhouse gates

    never had this much trouble finishing a book that technically I enjoy
     
  18. Zad Al'Keem

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    I love Deadhouse gates so far. Its written much better than book 1. My only problem is its size. I hate feeling like I am not progressing in some way. I know I am. But the end seems so far away. Im only at 20%. But ill finish it. Its the only worthy fantasy I have on hand at the moment. Well. Worthy fantasy I have not read.
     
  19. Inanna Landred

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    reading is about the Journey, not the destination :p
    I found it hard going at times, but it also moved me more than any series had in a long time.
     
  20. Jeryn Lekar

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    I recently started at Memories of Ice. That one's 1100 pages. :look At least the paperback version I have.