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Discussion in 'Wheel of Time News Discussion' started by Mhael Gorbachev, Dec 3, 2010.

  1. Narysse a'Jahar

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    Sometimes I think that the only good director for something so epic as WoT would be Peter Jackson. He did a brilliant job with the Tolkien books (although admittedly there were some scenes in the Hobbit I swear were done just for the computer game aspect), and he is familiar with the fantastical universe style of storytelling (re: LOTR) needed for WoT. New Line Cinema would do a good job of making a motion picture......something.....out of the series, except people new to the series via the motion picture industry would think it a LOTR ripoff, unfortunately.

    I just hope that if this is done, it's done right the first time. :\
     
  2. Dars al'Kaskade

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    They would really need to get the characters right, in terms of personality, chemistry and humor. That was the hook of WoT for me. I would rather it be approached more as a costume drama (with good SFX and action of course) than as a video-game-like CGI-fueled thing (re: Oz, yeah parts of the Hobbit, etc).

    Thus, I can't help but think about Ang Lee as director - a combination of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon with Sense and Sensibility.

    Emphasis on the Aes Sedai could help differentiate WoT from LotR. On the other hand, involvement by Peter Jackson would tend to naturally link the two.
     
  3. Kalez al'Xael

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    They would be fools not to try to make a movie (or an HBO series ;) ) out of WoT. Personally, id want the HBO series, considering how well they have done with Game of Thrones. But if LotR was such a huge success several times now, just think of how well WoT would do. It has SO much more to offer than LotR, and the story telling was better by bounds. This is definitely one thing I hope to see before I die.
     
  4. Dars al'Kaskade

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    So, I just came across this picture from the TV series Vikings (which I haven't been able to watch any of yet) and it made me think, albeit vaguely, of the cover art for Winter's Heart. Anyway, just thinking that a quality Wheel of Time series would not have to be prohibitively expensive to produce. Of course, there are visual effects requirements here and there and some large-scale cities and architecture. But especially for the earlier books, you really just need to do a good job of casting the roles, make some nice threads for costumes, and film people talking and walking through the forest.

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  5. Halan Leion

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    why not a series like GOT?
    it makes more sense to do multiple series rather than one or two movies and cram everything in.
     
  6. A'rohn Baile

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    Honestly I'd much rather see The Wheel of Time portrayed as an animation as I think an animated series would do the books more justice. Perhaps in the style of The Last Airbender but probably much darker. The fantasy elements, such as channelling, entering the world of dreams, travelling through the Ways etc. are far more common compared to the fantasy elements in something like Game of Thrones. I mean you can hardly read a chapter without something fantastical happening in The Wheel of Time. For this reason I think an animated series would have a much easier time bringing the book to life and I honestly believe it would just be really awkward trying to portray all the fantasy elements of WoT using live action. This is one of the reasons why I didn't like the live action film of the last airbender. But the animated series was fantastic.
     
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  7. Kitan Tataru

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    It wasn't live action that killed The Last Airbender... It was M Night.
     
  8. A'rohn Baile

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    Yeah I agree. I didn't say that the live action component was the only reason it failed. But I do think that taking such a fantasy heavy book - by which, I mean that the magical elements are a real forefront of the show and are constantly being shown i.e. bending and channelling - and trying to portray that using live action tends to turn out really bad and awkward in my opinion.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have a hard time imagining live action scenes where characters are fighting with the One Power, creating weaves, shielding each other etc. without it looking...odd
     
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  9. Steliana M'Dwai

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    Count me among those who would rather see an HBO series than a movie. I just don't think that the scope of WoT can be properly portrayed in full length film. They'd either have to cut lots of stuff out, or make the movies so long they wouldn't do well financially, then the series wouldn't be finished. I'd love to see HBO pick them up though, they did such a great job with GoT!
     
  10. Tevin Aerwin

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    It would be really hard to make a movie of the wheel of time series. Like the Lord of the Rings books where awesome but the movie left out a lot of stuff. To read a book i can envision it in my head better than any movie could. Thats just my theory though.
     
  11. Raeviendha al'Toma

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    I agree Tevin! I love reading books as opposed to seeing movies made from books... does that make sense?
     
  12. Dars al'Kaskade

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    Yeah - screen adaptions rarely manage to live up to the experience of the original work, at least for those who have read it beforehand.

    The Wheel of Time is a tricky one to adapt, just based on, "what's the target viewer demographic?" Of course, for those of us who love it, it holds a sort of universal appeal. But from a film-making standpoint, what category does it fit into? It's not really a simple, bright, Disney type story; it's far more complex and sometimes darker than that. Neither is it really quite as dark or "mature content" as the typical HBO show. Lord of the Rings is similar to a degree, but it is the most well known, quintessential fantasy saga, and unrivaled in built-in familiarity in its genre.

    I would love to see an animated adaption of WoT, something in the style of what Studio Ghibli produces, more in the realm of traditional animation. Characters could look exactly right, voice actors could be perfectly matched to them, cities and the one power could be easily rendered with plenty of epic-ness. Unfortunately, in the U.S. at least there just is not much of a mainstream market for mature/complex animation, it seems...
     
  13. Midian Venamar

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    You've got a good point Dars. I think the biggest thing in the end when deciding how to do WoT as a movie or movie series would be deciding on a target audience. One movie that did a pretty good job of broadening the demographic was the Harry Potter series. Lord of the Rings was clearly focused on a 10-21 demographic. Game of Thrones is clearly a 21-35 audience. Harry Potter started out being specific to a relatively younger audience, but it picked up the maturity toward the end. I think The Wheel of Time could do that pretty well as well. Start out at a target audience around mid to late teens, then slowly introduce more and more mature subjects and style as the series goes on. Of course, with your earlier point I think it more likely that a live action movie would be better.
     
  14. Dars al'Kaskade

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    Yeah, Harry Potter probably is a good example for that.
     
  15. roonibrice

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    and another Games of thrones..i love this series i hope it never ends :p
     
  16. Ixialdor Lathanril

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    The big problem I see with this is, if you do a movie series, that is 14 books. Harry Potter was 7 books they did in 8 movies. The problem you get with doing multiple movies for 14 books is the actors/actresses. It takes a long time to film and everything and those actors are going to age during the course of the films. Lord of the Rings was shot all three at the same time so the only thing that took time to do in between releases was the CGI and film editing. I highly doubt any movie studio is going to pay to shoot 14 movies all at once, too much money to pay for the film, actors and you toss the dice on that, because you don't know how well the film will do. The only feasible way to do a live action movie would be to combine books to make single movies, but then the movie ends up being like 4-5 hours and they still have to cut a TON of stuff. I think doing an animated or CGI film would be the best way. Voice actors aging won't affect the film and you can afford to do one movie, judge it's reception, then film the next. The studio who made the Final Fantasy Advent Children would be a good fit I think because the animation in that looked realistic. That's my two cents on the subject
     
  17. Derwyn Vala

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    I personally like the idea of doing a series over a movie. Game of Thrones is totally epic, and if they stick to the story better, it could be a good portrayal of the books. A film just doesn't seem that possible, considering the size of the series. I would still be ecstatic but the potential for failure in both movie and series is very real. Just look how they butchered The Last Airbender! I suppose I can still hold out hope with Potter, and LoTR being a success.
     
  18. Dars al'Kaskade

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    I think that they could adapt it into a 7-season TV arc, combining books and editing out certain peripheral parts.
     
  19. Ixialdor Lathanril

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    And Legend of the Seeker (Sword of Truth). :vomit
     
  20. Derwyn Vala

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    Oh I know! I couldn't make it through the Seeker.