Michelle Sagara - The Chronicles of Elantra

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  1. Randalren

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    the spoiler comes into play a couple more times..
    And yeah she’s 13 books in
    Probably wants to tell a story we don’t know about yet
     
  2. Elanda Tonil

    Elanda Tonil Aes Sedai Survey Project Manager Forum Moderator

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    I've been listening to Deception while down with the flu. I'm not about halfway through... and I have no idea what is going on. :p On the plus side, I had some pretty exciting fever dreams... :p I'll be restarting the book this weekend. :p
     
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    she also writes as Michelle West the Sun Sword and House War series are amazing though different from what she writes as Sagara
     
  4. Randalren

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    Yup...
    Read them all...

    And if you let her... Elanda will go on, and on, and on... :p
    :look
     
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    I have to try that series still.
     
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    I’m planning on rereading the sun sword books

    But there’s no audio books to help get through when I have long drives
     
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    Jas'yn Al'Dragoran Gaidin

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    Yes. I’ve read the first four and the First few of house war. I really love Jewel as a character.
     
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    Elanda Tonil Aes Sedai Survey Project Manager Forum Moderator

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    Jewel is awesome! My favorite is Avandar followed closely by Kallandras. I also love Teresa! I love that there are a lot of “good guys” who are not allies or even particularly good, they’re just less bad.

    For some reason I always get bogged down in Riven Shield, which is sad because the ending is phenomenal. My next Sun Sword reread I plan to read through Sea of Sorrows then jump to the House War books before finishing Sun Sword. Hmm, though really I should read the Hunter books, then the first couple House Wars, then the first few Sun Sword, then finish House War... maybe I’ll do that.

    Ooo! And Anya and Auralis! And Kiriel. I even kind of like Isladar. For some reason I’ve never cared for Valedan, he always just felt whiney. But no one can beat Avandar for back story. :D

    I love how she makes the different cultures meaningfully different. She takes the time to build the individual cultures and the expects us to understand them implications of different events from the different cultural perspectives without her necessarily explaining it evey time. She doesn’t just cut us loose and let us drift, but she also doesn’t hold our hand through it all. It’s so refreshing to read.

    I was going to protest the idea that I’ll go on and on about Sun Sword... but then I looked at my post length already and realized I proved your point. :p :tug
     
  9. Randalren

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    Told ya so.....

    :p
     
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    Nice. Don’t worry going on and on. I agree. I’m trying to read them in order. But have been on a break. I just started a wot reread tho so may be a while. But I love it. I think she has a similar breadth and scope as Jordan’s world.
     
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    Not to blaspheme but...
    I kinda like her books and Anne bishops
    More than Jordan’s :p
     
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    Who knew Hyundai could inspire fiction? :cheese

    I tried to read one of Anne Bishop's novel (about a blood mage or something?). It was . . . kind of nauseating. I couldn't finish it.
     
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    Hmmm blood mage....
    Oh the one where she gets cut she has visions?
    That wasn’t bad...
    But if that nauseates you....
    I wouldnt read her stuff... it’s about par for her
     
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    I don't remember exactly, but it seems like there was an emasculation and other unpleasant things. I don't mind bloody stories, but I don't like smut and am rather fond of being intact, so . . . :lol
     
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    I agree with that. I like her characters more than Jordan's though... :look People are so much more layered and they feel more self-interested, which strikes me as being more realistic. I also like the Eastern influence in the series, it makes it refreshing and interesting to read.

    Plus Avandar. :love :p

    :rofl I support you in this. ;)
     
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    Me too. I just wish they were written in a more coherent order. I started on house war and find two books in oh go read this other six book series and then come back was a bit frustrating.i do think the characters and plot generally are great.
     
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    I think it’s because they are side stories, while relevant are not required for the main basic story
     
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    :look you only need to read the first 4 or so of that series... :look Which, somehow, I doubt makes it any better. ;)

    It’s probably simplest to read them in the order they were written which is The Sacred Hunt dulogy (Jewel is a side character there), then The Sun Sword series, then the House War books. The time jump in The House War books is... jarring though, so if you want to get Jewel’s story without the time jumps you should read the Sacred Hunt books, then the first three of the House War books, then through Sea of Sorrows in The Sun Sword, then jump back to finish off the House War books. You could also do the first 3 House War books, then the Sacred Hunt, the first few of Sun Sword, then back to House War. Hunter’s Death and House Name happen concurrently, just like Skirmish, etc. with the last few of Sun Sword. I think Michelle has a blog post with different recommended reading orders, I’ll have to see if I can find it.

    In Michelle’s defense, she never expected Jewel’s story to be this involved. She was supposed to be just a side character in The Sacred Hunt books, then when she came into the Sun Sword books, a fairly straight forward side story which interwove with the original plotline of The Sun Sword. It wasn’t until most of the way through that series that Michelle realized she really had two major plots now. Hehe Her writing style is interesting in that she doesn’t outline, which works great for her on the writer’s end but sometimes creates problems like we see with Jay’s storyline. The story part of it is great but the organization of it is problematic. Michelle apologized for it when she started writing The Hidden City because she knew it was convoluted., but by that point there wasn’t much she could do. The nice thing with Michelle is you can email her and she actually responds! :D
     
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    Yes I saw that post of hers. Hence the frustration! I started with HW 1 and 2 then the sacred hunt books then started SS but got stalled. I may just go on to read HW. I like SS but it didn’t enthrall me the way House War has and I feel like I’m overcoming an obstacle to get back to what I was loving.
     
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    Which book are you in in SS? I think SS would be a much better series without Valedan... but that would be kinda like WoT without Rand. :lol I wonder if there’s a summary out there of Jewel’s parts in SS you could read so you could get back to HW with the info but without sifting through all of SS for it.