im back! 5 marks i finish the books this time...

[Tobyas Cuendrelle]

Earrings don't have to be hefty and chunky to be fun. There are all sorts, especially on etsy.

I reckon I'm gonna have to give this conlang stuff a closer look. I'm blaming you if I end up picking up a new hobby

Abstract theology of any religion particularly? (Also, if you haven't found it already, we do have a religion channel that can be opted into if you like). I haven't read any queer theory in a bit, I've been pretty sucked into random essayists and sociology, but I'd love to get back to it some day.

In that case I recommend toki pona! easy learning curve & you can do a lot of fun and creative things with it

Yeah I am in that channel! I have a background in Christianity, so my theology tends to centre around that as it's kind of my comfort zone, but it's not a strict preference. Recently I have been trying to read Deleuze

 

[Satrim Kha'os]

Any of Deleuze's works in particular? In my usual circles most have heard of and reccomend a thousand plateaus, so I've meant to read it and his work for a bit, but I've struggled to stick to books and am making only painfully slow progress through my to-read list. Also, if you enjoy philosophy, you may enjoy this:

View: https://youtu.be/AgFzcg5esd8?si=E_fNRhisMCa8mB2k


I'm not big on hip-hop, but I enjoy his stuff. He has a lot more on Spotify.

Also, also, between philosophy and Christianity, have you heard of the concept of Kyriarchy?

 

[Tobyas Cuendrelle]

Any of Deleuze's works in particular? In my usual circles most have heard of and reccomend a thousand plateaus, so I've meant to read it and his work for a bit, but I've struggled to stick to books and am making only painfully slow progress through my to-read list. Also, if you enjoy philosophy, you may enjoy this:

View: https://youtu.be/AgFzcg5esd8?si=E_fNRhisMCa8mB2k


I'm not big on hip-hop, but I enjoy his stuff. He has a lot more on Spotify.

Also, also, between philosophy and Christianity, have you heard of the concept of Kyriarchy?

Haha I do love Symphony of Science's remixes so that's kind of similar [my sister insists they are not music and have no coherent tune but they still get stuck in my head thanks very much]

I started with his first foundational book which is Difference and Repetition. And by reading it.. I mean I read maybe 30% and then now I'm reading James Williams' excellent commentary, which follows closely and is, you know, sort of comprehensible. I ought to but may not go back afterwards and read the source material.

But what interests me in Deleuze's scheme is the reversal of Plato - primacy of difference not oneness. Everything I've taken in so far has been very Platonic, about some sort of underlying Oneness/Unity/Identity, with different things gathered together by representation, similarity, analogy. To my understanding, Deleuze criticises this and gives first place to "difference-in-itself" (DON'T ask me what it means that's what i wanna know ) as prior to identity, in order to defend the new, and life. Because in a Platonic identity-first scheme, there can be sterilisation, dependence on language & categories. And if everything is the Same, how can something be truly novel, or truly creative?

Very challenging stuff for someone raised on an omni-potent/scient/etc God. But like.. my whole journey has been toward life, toward novelty & creativity, toward breaking down hierarchies, toward mystery & question & the Other. And it seems like Deleuze takes a very bold step to that end.

I hadn't heard the term kyriarchy, but it sounds something like what I'd refer to as 'Empire' or 'technic' [from federico campagna]. Good stuff. I mean bad stuff. But good to point it out I am in some anarchist circles and leftist circles in general so there is a lot of talk about oppressive systems

 

[Satrim Kha'os]

Haha I do love Symphony of Science's remixes so that's kind of similar [my sister insists they are not music and have no coherent tune but they still get stuck in my head thanks very much]

I started with his first foundational book which is Difference and Repetition. And by reading it.. I mean I read maybe 30% and then now I'm reading James Williams' excellent commentary, which follows closely and is, you know, sort of comprehensible. I ought to but may not go back afterwards and read the source material.

But what interests me in Deleuze's scheme is the reversal of Plato - primacy of difference not oneness. Everything I've taken in so far has been very Platonic, about some sort of underlying Oneness/Unity/Identity, with different things gathered together by representation, similarity, analogy. To my understanding, Deleuze criticises this and gives first place to "difference-in-itself" (DON'T ask me what it means that's what i wanna know ) as prior to identity, in order to defend the new, and life. Because in a Platonic identity-first scheme, there can be sterilisation, dependence on language & categories. And if everything is the Same, how can something be truly novel, or truly creative?

Very challenging stuff for someone raised on an omni-potent/scient/etc God. But like.. my whole journey has been toward life, toward novelty & creativity, toward breaking down hierarchies, toward mystery & question & the Other. And it seems like Deleuze takes a very bold step to that end.

I hadn't heard the term kyriarchy, but it sounds something like what I'd refer to as 'Empire' or 'technic' [from federico campagna]. Good stuff. I mean bad stuff. But good to point it out I am in some anarchist circles and leftist circles in general so there is a lot of talk about oppressive systems

I've learnt the hard way that immediately jumping into the source material isn't always the best idea. Damned philosophers and their convoluted philosophising. Commentary and topical introduction books are the way to go.

I wasn't super familiar with Platonic philosophy, so it's interesting that it intersects in that way. I wonder if it was an intentional development that built off from Platonic philosophy or if it's one that happened by coincidence and he explored it from there.

Deleuze is definitely taking steps. Bold, confusing, steps

I rhought you might have some familiarity with Kyriarchy given your religious roots more than any political orientation, although its good to know. I'll have to get your opinion on Hegel next . Apparently Kyriarky was originally written by a Christian theological feminist or something to that end.