Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Book12

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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

Very interesting question. I've just finished reading ToM after listening to the audiobook. Funnily enough the audiobook felt very Jordan-like but when I read it, I could see more of Sanderson in it. I'm not a psychologist so I've no idea why.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I felt ToM was more liek Jordan than tGS. Yes, the endning seemed a bit anticlimatic, buit you cant have everything since this is not Jordan writing it.
 
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Jacqueline Casalain said:
It definitely felt more Jordan to me. I think Sanderson was just building his way into the characters. Mat, for example, seemed much less forced. Although ,honestly, most characters seemed to lack a lot of their depth that they had when Jordan did it. Almost like just going through the motions.


Are you serious?

the entire SERIES lost depth. But that's NOT Brandon Sanderson's fault. NO ONE sane can be expected to compete with someone that spent if I remember correctly some where in the neighborhood of SIX PAGES describing Suian Sanche's bloody DESK in microscopic detail, not including the rest of the office.This book in general seemed like Jordan wrote the outline, and Sanderson filled it in, and he just simply is NOT Jordan,

A good example of some filling Jordan DID do, is the description of the Amyrlin's door. That's the kinda of stuff I miss from Jordan. although given the aforementioned desk incident, I'm assuming Jordan started that scene, and stopped in the middle of it. Probably a case of "i can't waste my limited time on THIS"

I think in the last book we will see a lot of that.
 
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I did a re-read and yeah, it still feels like a lot of the characters were far more shallow. No, I'm not saying I expected it any differently, but that wasn't the question of the topic ;)
 
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I actually agree with you there were parts in 12 that distinctly felt un-Jordanlike but book 13 wow omfg it was all Jordanesque hands down. Sanderson is absolutly Fantastic.
 

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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I'm not a native English speaker so I might miss some stylistic details, and besides these are just small things. I'm not complaining about Brandon Sanderson, he's doing awesome job! In fact, I like Sanderson's style better, but some characters just didn't feel the same. Good example is Padan Fain. When RJ wrote him he was so creepy that I almost had nightmares because of him, but the short Fain bit in ToM was just like any other character. And I agree with Kallaes Doon about Mat. While he was funny in ToM he was a bit too childish imo.

Xylina Tyloredrid said:
[quote="Kallaes Doon":embarassed:0s79n5f]Sanderson loves variants of "he played me" and tends to over use them, at least in his recent books.

I'm glad I'm not the only one this phrase bothered. It just seemed so out of place.[/quote:embarassed:0s79n5f]

This I marked, too, and the fact that too many people answered "Very well" when they were agreeing to something. Sanderson uses that a lot also in the Way of Kings.
 
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I think a fair amount of what Sanderson wrote was obviously his by the way the dialogue phrasing. Sanderson seems to write fantasy in the tradition of the Lord Dunsany dialogue. It always trys to form a middle ground between old english and modern english that just doesn't quite feel normal. RJ's dialogue never really did this. He used his own terms, but he didn't say "verily" or anything if a character was in agreement with another.
Overall I would say 14 felt more like RJ than 13, but the dialogue isn't quite there. All of the events and character reactions feel like they play the same as RJ would have done it, but conversations reads like the way a dub over of a kung fu movie sounds.
Oddly though, I'm enjoying Matt more now that he has slipped back to the prankster mold.... and why did it take 95% of the book before we could go to the Tower of Genghi?!?! That drove me nuts! I want more Moraine!.... I missed her. *sniff sniff*
 
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There was definitely more Jordan in ToM and I think that we can expect to see more in aMoL. (I remember hearing that Jordan wrote the last chapter early on, and I think its fair to say that Jordan also wrote other late parts earlier) That being said, while I love Jordan and his style, I don't think Sanderson should try to be Jordan. I think some of the parts of the last two books that felt "forced" were due to Sanderson trying to be too much Jordan. Nobody can mimic anybody very effectively, especially not a writer like Jordan.
I do believe that Sanderson is getting a better grasp of the characters though. I felt like in ToM Mat was done much better. Perrin seemed to have more depth to him. Rand...well I feel like that was Jordan... So he doesn't really count that much
 
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I seem to remember from an interview somewhere that when RJ knew he was terminally ill, he finished writing the end, and made his way backwards from there. Obviously, it wasn't revealed how far he got. However, we can probably presume aside from the last scenes, he more than likely wrote the outline of the remaining scenes, not the details.(One of the things I will be thankful for, I don't need 2 paragraphs of what Nyneave will be wearing in Shayol Ghul)

Brandon has been doing a pretty good job. It's easy for people to criticize his writing style, but it's a lot harder to write a book like someone else than I imagine any of us know. Especially when you have such a demanding audience, both for the story and the deadline for it to be wrapped up. The fact that he's done as well as he has speaks volumes to his ability as a writer.
 
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And let us all remember that BS is not trying to write like RJ. He stated, I think it was in his blog, that he is not going to try to write like Jordan, he is just going to adapt his style to fit with the way Jordan wrote. I'll admit that sometimes I missed the way Jordan wrote, but overall I am very pleased with the work Brandon has done.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I gotta admit I don' like BS quite as much as I do RJ but I do like him I think he is a true and incredibly worthy successor to RJ and Tolkein.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I think a lot of the feeling of "Jordaness" in book 13 was the emphesis on Perrin. That made the story strech, IMHO, and gave it more of a Jordan-like feeling.
In book 12, everything happened much faster, a lot of plot points were written off quickly. For example, I felt a very big difference in the amount of Jordaness in book 13 between the Periin scenes and, say, the tower scene with Mat, which had a much higher BS in it then Jordan (although that could just be the different ways in which the two use Mat, with Jordan using him as a favorite, brilliant character, and BS uses him as a comic reliefe).
So generally I'd have to say yes, book 13 felt a lot more like the good old Jordan then it did BS, at least most of it.
 
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Re: Did the towers of midnight feel more like Jordan than Bo

I could totally agree with that Aulrick book 13 certainly had a lot more Jordan involved then book 12 although book 12 certainly had its share of Jordanness in it. I don't know about the rest of y'all but Mat being used as comic releif pisses me off a bit I think Jordan did a wonderful job developing his character and I want him to go back that way for the final book. Please BS hear my prayer.
 
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I just finished reading book 13 for the second time. The book is simply awesome, but... I hav a feeling that Sanderson has trouble writing some characters, Lan specifically. Lan just doesn't feel the same as when Jordan was writing him.
 

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I feel Sanderson use more contemporary wording than Jordan would have
 
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I definately think that ToM felt more like Robert Jordan because I think that it tied off most of the loose ends, and I'm pretty sure that was high up on Robert Jordan's to do list for the 14th book.
 
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