Anyone read Star Wars books?

Discussion in 'Non-WOT - Literature and Fiction' started by Neria Hawke, Nov 21, 2013.

  1. Neria Hawke

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    I have seen some of it and I would love to see the whole series because I've heard it had some good storylines and character arcs. It's more that the other Clone Wars material was virtually thrown away officially. That irritated me. I heard about what they did with Ahsoka in the end and that seemed a cop out.
     
  2. Ashlyn Sindal

    Ashlyn Sindal Aes Sedai

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    They thought they were going to have a sixth season, and I feel like Ahsoka's storyline at the end was less of a cop-out and more just unfinished. I resisted watching the show for a long time, because the movie was just so bad (omg wtf Ziiro the Hutt), but Ely eventually talked me into it, and I'm glad she did. Master Plo is now one of my favorite Jedi.
     
  3. Dars al'Kaskade

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    Yeah, one of the best parts of the show was that Plo and the other Jedi masters got actual screen time. I also really like Shaak Ti, and considering her deleted scene from Revenge of the Sith as well as the Order 66 scenes, all of those characters' stories have a tragic quality about them.

    I hadn't read any of the previous Clone Wars stuff that was messed with by the show, but I was very annoyed at the depiction of the planet Dathomir, so different from the original depiction in The Courtship of Princess Leia.

    As far as Ahsoka, it was an odd parting, but at least it left the door open (I think) to her reappearing somewhere, and if an older version of her makes an appearance in the new films, that would be beyond awesome, to see her in live-action.
     
  4. Ashlyn Sindal

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    I'm holding out hope that she'll make an appearance in Rebels, but it would be great to see her in the new films, too. I would definitely be down with old lady Ahsoka.
     
  5. Neria Hawke

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    Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, I saw the movie when it came out on DVD. I remember thinking that the Genndy Tartakovsky micro series was so much better.

    I loved Shaak Ti. They kept trying to kill her and changing their minds. She died at the Jedi Temple in the Revenge of the Sith novelisation (which was based on the screenplay), then Grievous killed her on his ship in the deleted scene, then the Apprentice fights and (I think) kills her in the first Force Unleashed game. She's like Rasputin :lol

    What did they change about Dathomir? I really liked that whole thing with the Witches of Dathomir who rode Rancors. I watched one episode where they went to the Mandalorian homeplanet. I really didn't like the cultural shift, especially when the Mandalorians have had probably the most fleshed out culture and society of anyone in the SW universe.

    I would be nice if kept Ahsoka as part of the new material.
     
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    Yeah, specifically the Mandalorian thing is what my boyfriend didn't like about the TV show, and with good reason. They really were a very fleshed out culture that got thrown out. I kind of pretend in my head that's like a small part of the planet or something and the rest of it is like it's supposed to be. :lol
     
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    Ah, doing a bit of research to answer this better has made me even more upset. :facepalm :p So anyway...

    Well, first they turned the Nightsisters into this really bizarre sort of dark side coven-thing, sort of a "exaggeratedly Satanic Pixar arcade-game hallucination." Which in theory might not be too much of a stretch, but I liked the original story of how a rogue Jedi was exiled on the planet and her descendants became the "Witches of Dathomir" personified by their earthy culture. And they weren't all dark-side users (i.e. Teneniel Djo).

    Also, on the show, they portray the planet as having reddish atmosphere, kind of a nightmare-scape to fit the new look of the Nightsisters. That does not jive with how I understood the planet to be, which is essentially normal, maybe like Endor or something.

    Further, they used the planet as the origin of Darth Maul, being the place where his people currently live (also the origin of Ventriss).

    And further still, I see that they have retconned Dathomir yet again, in the Dawn of the Jedi stories, including some ancient and technologically advanced inhabitants. I'm like, don't you people get that the whole idea of the planet in the first place was that it was a backwater wilderness?

    I just wish that they would make up a new planet, if they felt the need to tell these other stories. Grrr, Arrrgh. /end rant
     
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    I found it really silly to turn a warrior culture into a more Vulcan kind of culture, if I can put it that way. If I remember correctly, there were several pacifist cultures, including one which nearly got wiped out because of their beliefs during the Yuuzhan Vong war. Why not have a culture that's pacifist to begin with?

    Seriously?!

    The change to the Nightsisters smacks of Strong, Powerful Women = Bad. :tug It's always much more interesting to simply have a culture / society with different viewpoints and beliefs.

    Yeah, I think Dathomir was more of jungle type of planet, which again fits in with the culture of the inhabitants.
    I suppose Darth Maul originally being from there fits with the whole dark-side view of the planet but that's still really silly to do that. What's the point?
    Also, why retcon it again? Stop making a mess of things! Just decide on something and stick with it! Arrgh!

    It really doesn't make sense for them to change what planets and cultures are, especially when they've been so well established and there are actually places and cultures that can fit the stories they want to tell. Or as you say, they could just create a new place and people. That's what all the EU writers have done for the past few decades. It just messes things up even more.
    :tug
     
  9. Ashlyn Sindal

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    Ugh, the revamped Mandalorians and Nightsisters. Those are the two parts of The Clone Wars that I genuinely dislike. Burn it with fire. :p Oh, and the completely nonsensical name change for the Sith homeworld. It was in all other ways identical to Korriban, but it was Moriband. Why? You will have to ask George Lucas.
     
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    Ha, yeah I forgot about that. What's wrong with "Korriban"? :p
     
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    Exactly. Korriban is one of my favourite planets. Can we blame the Maker instead of thanking him? :p

    I always liked the way the video games and books tried to keep everything coherent and consistent whenever they used the same places or characters. If I remember correctly, the witches of Dathomir (and their Rancors) were used as one of your forces in probably the last SW strategy game made. No different to the way they were in the books.

    In regard to Darth Maul, I was reminded that he was a Zabrak, just like Bao-Dur in KOTOR II.

    *sigh*
     
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    Star Wars Galaxies (MMO) handled Dathomir very well and Zabrak were definitely not from there! I never liked the clone wars cartoon and just plain ignore it generally.
     
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    Anyone else super excited for Heir to the Jedi on Tuesday? It's gotten pretty good reviews so far. :D
     
  14. Dars al'Kaskade

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    I'm a bit curious about it. The first-person-perspective thing is no so much my favorite approach.

    Right now, I'm finishing A New Dawn. Have you read Tarkin, Ashlyn?
     
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    Not yet. I own it, but I haven't gotten around to reading it.
     
  16. Ashlyn Sindal

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    So far, I'm not terribly impressed with Heir to the Jedi. The story is okay, but I don't really feel like Hearne has Luke's voice down at all. Also, the phrase "moist charisma" was used to describe Ackbar, which...no.
     
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    Moist... charisma?! :blink That sounds pretty terrible!

    I'm rereading the X-Wing series currently.
     
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    So, the first of the new books between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens, 'Aftermath,' has been announced for a September 4 release...

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    That line cracks me up. :p Of course, it is true...from a certain point of view. And I am intrigued to see how this all plays out.