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Yes it seems like most of the other points stem from our disagreement over what constitutes 'breaking' and/or 'violating' the wheel, so let's settle this before we get to those. You are saying that the wheel is still intact even though what is repeating has fundamentally changed. That seems to...

When he is in the pattern he IS part of time. Are you saying that having him not be there in future turns is really being "repetitive"? Like he doesn't make a significant difference to what happens? The DO not being in the Pattern is a breaking of the wheel. Again, and I wish this would be...

I see myself as having been attacked first, until I defended myself. Even so, I apologized first to de-escalate the situation; I didn't think that would be taken as a sign of weakness on my part. But the return apology is appreciated. If you wish to discuss it further, I suggest we move it to...

You attacked me, and didn't apologize back when I extended the first apology. But moving on. That's my point, we can't argue one is overall 'better' or 'worse' than another because that's all up to our individual opinions. But I am questioning why you criticize this one, and offer reasons...

Again, nobody is saying he is not unique. We all agree that he is unique. My point is that you cannot criticize the writing of the books as being disconnected if the ending doesn't follow from the themes presented from him being unique, since we did not learn that from the books. If you want...

To clarify, my post was intended to be an apology to Aulrick for any insults my previous posts may have conveyed to him; I didn't mean it as a reply to you or to refute your intervention in the thread. I'm sorry if it appeared that way, I have no issues with your mod style and will gladly...

Wow, first let me apologize if anything I have said has amounted to a personal insult. The conversation has gotten heated as we both obviously believe what we are saying very strongly, but I didn't think it had reached that point, and I didn't intend to make it so. I am not using "big words"...

Because you don't specify, even now, how any of them indicate a unique turning. What prophecy, what does it say, and why does that foreshadow a unique turning? How do the wounds foreshadow a unique ending? The cleansing? None of these do so unless you put them together with what RJ said...

At the risk of sounding repetitive, what foreshadowing? I have still only seen you mention of Fain being unique, and some various fan theories. Very little if anything from the books themselves. RJ said Fain was unique to a fan, he didn't write it in the books. You can't say an ending...

Can you show me where? Each time, you say "it was foreshadowed a lot", and I don't see any specific examples. The ones you did give, as I said in my last post, were entirely out of book. What exactly is wrong with that? If an interesting story repeats itself an infinite number of times...

Yes, we are indeed arguing more in the realm of the subjective over the objective at this point. I still think most of what you are saying focuses on pointing out what you see as negatives, when you can't really say why your or any alternative ending is better. Which as I said is an easy way...

So let me know if I'm missing anything from your post, but while you keep saying there is "a lot" of foreshadowing, the only specifics I can glean from what you wrote in terms of foreshadowing are what was said about Fain in an interview, and the presence of various fan-made theories. I.e. not...

You're getting far too caught up in making this about the choice aspect. The central theme of the series is balance, it'd be pretty tough to say anything else is more central to the series. Realizing that killing the DO is wrong is the best ending for a series about balance, the ending you...

It's not some artificial addon whose need has to be justified. From the beginning of the series we have known there is the creator and the dark one, and they form a duality. There's no way you read this series, and didn't think "ok, the creator is opposite the dark one". So it's pretty...

Haha, yeah same goes for me vanishing for a couple weeks. It's a busy time of year. Yeah, nothing for it but to wait for more confirmation of what the Wheel is really about, either from the encyclopedia or if BS ever gives out more of what was in those notes.

I think the ending was as connected to the series as it could be. The ending wasn't just about choice, it was about balance. And whether or not you want to call it foreshadowing, balance definitely IS a common theme of the series. So an ending that stresses the importance of balance seems...

Sorry again for stepping out of the conversation at length then stepping back in. RL can go through its suck periods. I realize by this point the debate has now become about matters of preference and opinion, and thus can't really be logically argued anymore. But I feel like chiming in my...

Alright, but now by considering this, you acknowledge that a single entity in the Pattern is capable of representing this "rule". I.e. a single element can be responsible for "automatically" altering every decision. So my question is, now, why do you believe Rand can create a single "evil...

That's always a possibility for stuff like this, and for Sanderson at least I'd say it's more like a probability :P He did after all have a lot on his plate to tie up, and I'm sure he just tried to put as much of whatever was in the notes he was given to book as possible. RJ, on the other hand...

I am sure if you were to read your own story without the context of us having this discussion, you would think that is an incredibly awkward way for Randall to describe that situation. And that's even though this story was formatted by you to the best of your abilities to make that line work...