Rand and the Bore

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This has been bugging me for a while. What, exactly, did Rand do a the Bore? What I'm thinking is he used his non-divided One Power to recreate the threads in the Pattern that had been destroyed in the original drilling, but I would appreciate expert input. :)
 

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I believe he wove Sadin, Sadiar and the True power together to form a new, stronger power which he used to seal the bore properly as it shoudl have been done in the first place. Remember, when LLT sealed the bore it was only the men who went, instead of involving women. That was their biggest mistake, no balance.
 

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The only thing that could not be contaminated by the True Power was itself the True Power, so he used that as a sort of coating to ensure Saidin and Saidar remained untainted- and then he used Saidin and Saidar, the two powers of the Pattern, to weave a fully comprehensive seal, lined with the Dark One's own taint, to keep TDO imprisoned for all time.

Think of it as if you mixed cement and water to create concrete, and then coated it in something to keep acid rain from burning into it. He crafted an impermeable plug in the hole in reality where TDO had been touching the world.
 
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Interesting. I thought he simply used all 3 powers some how, since in a circle, that's possible.
The assumption throughout the series was that the use of Saidin and Saidar combined was enough to prevent the DO from tainting them. Rand's LTT's memories made him think that, and he stated it several times. Doesn't make it true, but that's the assumption by the characters in the books.
Do you have some backing to suggest this isn't the case? That he indeed used the TP to protect the one power, to seal the DO for all time or anything like this?
 

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Thank you, Caliden.
 
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Interesting interpretation.
I'm not sure I agree with it, but I can see how that can be understood from that paragraph.
 

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He also has a moment of clarity where he thinks a bit more about it- it's why he had Moridin take Callandor.
 
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How so? If Moridin wouldn't have stabbed his own hand, he wouldn't have been able to take Callandor.
I think it was the orher way around. His understanding came AFTER Moridin took the sword, and Rand suddenly understood the pattern's work at giving him this chance.
 

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Nope. Read the book carefully- Rand specifically planned on Callandor for that reason throughout the entire book- it allowed the True Power to be used as well. Rand was hoping to not need to draw on it himself, and Moridin gave him that opportunity, but the fact remains he planned to use the True Power for this purpose all along.
 
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I'm not arguing with that. I'm just saying that he didn't plan how it will happen. Moridin's ignorance of Callandor's flaw played into his hands. This has Pattern/Taveren written all over it, as I see it. Not gonna say he didn't hope for such a thing :P
 
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This was the most dangerous part of the plan. Min had figured it out. Callandor had such flaws, such incredible flaws. Created so that a man using it needed women to control him, created so that if Rand used it, others could take control of him ... Why was Rand to need a weapon with such flaws? Why did the prophecies mention it so? A sa'angreal for teh True Power. Why would he ever need sucha thing? The answer was simple. "Now!" Rand yelled. Nynaeve and Moiraine channeled together, exploiting the flaw in Callandor as Moridin tried to bring it to bear against Rand. Wind whipped in the tunnel. The ground quivered, and Moridin yelled, eyes going wide. They took control of him. Callandor was flawed. Any man using it could be forced to link with women, to be placed in their control. A trap ... and one he used on Moridin.

Seems very clear that his plan all along was to make Moridin use Callandor. The only thing he didn't plan on, probably, was the exact details on how he'd drop the sword.
 

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I wonder if anyone is able to sense the Dark One any more (as they did in the Age of Legends) and drill a new hole through it, or if that was a special one off talent that won't happen till the 2nd age comes around again
 
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The only thing that could not be contaminated by the True Power was itself the True Power, so he used that as a sort of coating to ensure Saidin and Saidar remained untainted- and then he used Saidin and Saidar, the two powers of the Pattern, to weave a fully comprehensive seal, lined with the Dark One's own taint, to keep TDO imprisoned for all time.

Think of it as if you mixed cement and water to create concrete, and then coated it in something to keep acid rain from burning into it. He crafted an impermeable plug in the hole in reality where TDO had been touching the world.

But this cannot be the case. "He wove something majestic, a pattern of interlaced saidin and saidar in their pure forms. ... Purity. Light itself. This didn't repair, it didn't patch, it forged anew." (891) It appears here that the One Power alone was used to Seal the Bore, and the True Power was kind of plugging the outside to prevent the Dark One from reaching in and touching the OP and tainting it.

My problem is the contradictory statements. As it said there, Rand used this new form of the OP to "forge anew", which I'm assuming means recreate the inanimate threads that were destroyed in the Drilling. But it goes on to say, "With this new form of the Power, Rand pulled together the rent that had been made here long ago by foolish men."

Remember that Herid Fel said the Bore had to be completely fixed, good as new, in order for the AoL to happen as it did. Plugging it wouldn't work - he recreated the Pattern or fixed it in some way. But did he "forge anew" and recreate the missing Pattern at the Bore? Or did he pull together the hole and tie it up somehow, like stitches that will heal themselves eventually? That's what I'm wondering, and for some reason it's really bugging me.
 

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Rand didn't reseal the Bore. He rewove the pattern so that there is no Bore. He took the threads from all the possible futures and outcomes and fixed the hole in the Pattern so that it's completely new and unblemished. At least that's what I got from that part of the book.
 
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Rand didn't reseal the Bore. He rewove the pattern so that there is no Bore. He took the threads from all the possible futures and outcomes and fixed the hole in the Pattern so that it's completely new and unblemished. At least that's what I got from that part of the book.

So is the Pattern the DO's prison, because if it is that makes sense. If it is something else, though, I am still wondering what Rand did with the One Power to fix it. That's mainly my problem, that he HAD to recreate the DO's prison, at least at the point of the Bore, and not just plug it or whatnot. But how did he do it?
 
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I think Bao the Wyld hit it spot on. And Rand as Moridin now can manipulate the pattern itself. It's likely he'll make sure Big DO will never get out or make a mess ever again.
 
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