What should the Aes Sedai do with Mesaana?

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We know that Nynaeve is very good at Healing, and Lews Therin Telamon shows that it's possible to heal madness/insanity.

Consider the following. Right now, with the Last Battle about to get started, Mesaana is basically a prisoner of the white tower. She is insane, but I suspect she knows a lot of stuff that the Good Guys would want to know. Particularly if the Aes Sedai are going to confront Rand at the Fields of Merrilor -- perfect way to bring him up to speed if he needs information on the Forsaken, who Demandred is, and so forth.

So...fit Mesaana with the a'dam so she remains under control and have Nynaeve Heal her. Once you Heal her, interrogate her. Then kill her. Who knows, she could seek asylum with the Aes Sedai sisters once she realizes Shaidar Haran and so forth won't be happy she was interrogated.

I wonder if she'll be easy to break with the a'dam around her neck. Rand had Asmodean, now Egwene has Mesaana. And this time Shaidar Haran is probably going to be too busy to rescue Mesaana.
 
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I took what happened to Mesaana as more of a natural labotomy. She did not go insane, her mind broke and scrambled like eggs. If Nyn couldn't heal Rand's madness I doubt she could heal this. Anything is possible, I just dont really see it happening. The Aes Sedai already had one chance at a forsaken with Moggy and doubt they will get a second.
 
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I vote to still her & send her to the farm. :bunny
 
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Parade her before the people until she dies of natural consequences. That way you strike a level of fear into the darkfriends nearby, and around the world. Use her for political gain. If the White Tower can strike down a Forsaken, and be shown to have done so, good political gain for them.
 
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They've got to interrogate her SOMEHOW, or at least set a trap for other Forsaken who may try to rescue her. If they can't interrogate her, they can at least interrogate the person her rescuer (assuming it's not Shaidar Haran or someone really powerful)
 
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Can messana be interogated with her mind destroyed the way it has been? And what kind of terror would a person much less an acient Aes Sedai/Forsaken truely strike in the minds of Darfriends everywhere when she cant even stop from soiling herself when ever she needs to use the privy? Way I see it you either kill the poor woman or you lock her away forever. Its obvious that in her state Moridin the DO and Shadar Haran aint gonna bothor to rescue her sorry carcass.
 
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I think she's dead, for all intents and purposes. A vegetable. Her mind is dead, broken. Remember that Healing the mind isn't the same as Healing the body. Semirhage was one of the foremost Restorers during the AoL. Graendal was the best at Healing the mind, and there were some thing that were beyond even her abilities. I think Mesaana is broken beyond repair. There are so many other plotlines that need to be finished, so I hope that's the case. I see no point in bringing Mesaana back into the picture.
 
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Well Nyneave seems to have discovered a remarkable aptitude for healing issues of the mind after all she has healed the madness of several Asha'man in the last few books so it is possible she may be capable of doing the healing of Mesaanas mind but I agree I doubt Mesaana is a factor any longer.
 
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I'd Balefire her ass just to be on the safe side, although I'm not sure if anyone in the Tower knows yet that the DO can bring Forsaken back to life if killed any other way.
 
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Dal al' Ecfugusun said:
I'd Balefire her ass just to be on the safe side, although I'm not sure if anyone in the Tower knows yet that the DO can bring Forsaken back to life if killed any other way.
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With Rand knowing balefire is the only permanent way to get rid of the forsaken, and all the time Nyn spent around Rand, I bet someone at the tower knows. Nyn is at the tower after all.
The only thing I don't remember off the top of my head is whether or not Rand learned that before or after Nyn left, but pretty sure it was before.
 
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That sounds horribly stupid. Launch such a terrifying strike of balefire at someone, and you really have no idea what's going to happen. When Rand Balefired Graendal's hideout, the weave was seriously damaged and nearly came apart. A full circle of Aes Sedai wielding powerful sa'angreals could probably achieve an even greater result. Which is all the more terrifying.

I really don't see it happen. Balefiring is strictly forbidden by Tower Law, and Aes Sedai still cling to that pretty vehemently. They're not going to just go rampant and balefire people. Certainly not in such a dramatic way. If they were to choose such an option, just to get rid of her permanently, I think it's more reasonable to assume they'd make it as weak a balefire as possible, to only erase her existence for a few moments back in time.
 
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Jerm Walt said:
[quote="Dal al' Ecfugusun":fv6l56zj]I'd Balefire her ass just to be on the safe side, although I'm not sure if anyone in the Tower knows yet that the DO can bring Forsaken back to life if killed any other way.
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With Rand knowing balefire is the only permanent way to get rid of the forsaken, and all the time Nyn spent around Rand, I bet someone at the tower knows. Nyn is at the tower after all.
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Nynaeve used balefire on darkhounds during her testing so it could be done.
 
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Henry, he's not saying that it isn't possible. I think he just really hates the idea of messing with time.

It's taking a chance, but I think erasing a Chosen for a few days, possibly close to a week would be more of a gain than any potential loss. Balefiring Graendal's entire fortress with more of the one power than the circle I proposed did not destroy the pattern, so I think erasing a single person (even with a strong blast of balefire) would be ok in terms of the health of the pattern.
 
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But remember Tehmpus ... there was a rippling negative effect of Rand balefiring NB. He truly did almost tear the pattern apart when he did it.
 
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But Rand didn't use the full force of the CK, did he? IIRC. If he had, he really would've broken the world, since that's how powerful that sa'angreal is.
 
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When he channeled the full power of the CK in Winter's Heart, he and everyone else were pretty sure that with such an amount of saidin, he could've literally cracked the entire world. We're talking thousands of times the amount of power he could channel unaided. We've seen him use lots of balefire without any aid. Burning away a fortress - any fortress - shouldn't require the amount of power needed to crush the entire world. He could've used just a fraction of the CK, and still have wielded a horrifying amount of the OP, much more than anyone else could without a powerful angreal or sa'angreal.
 
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