Why I think the Seanchan should lose a stand up fight.

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It has been mentioned by sul'dam who have leashed a Aes Sedai that they are useless in battle. I can't recall the exact context (after Falme or in more recent books, beats me) but I am certain the Oaths still prevent usage of the OP as a weapon when collared.

Also the art of linking has been lost in Seanchan because all Aes Sedai who knew about it were leashed. And I doubt they will allow a damane to link with another. who knows what it would do with the suldam and all the emotions they recieve... (if of course they CAN link when collared)
 

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It was discussed in another thread that if a collared Aes Sedai thought her life was in danger she can use the One Power as a weapon, so it's just a matter of the Sul`dam figuring that out and finding ways to get the collared AS to think they in dire danger. It was also mentioned that some damane have their hands removed if they behave especially badly or something, and while that's a valid threat I don't think it's a life threatening one.

If a collared damane was going to be part of a circle I would think her sul`dam would also have to be part of the circle since they're already their own circle together. I suspect the a'dam prevents that possibility but that's only a hunch.
 
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I'd always figured they were a circle of two just hadn't seen that thought confirmed anywhere. That might explain why they appear to be extra powerful vs regular Aes Sedai, not counting their rapid-fire weaving skills.


Circle of two sure, but the strength only coming from one of them.
 
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Doesn't that kinda beats the idea of a circle? So much so that I can't see how one could call it that. A circle is adding one's power to others to increase strength... Without the extra strength, it's just control of another's weaves...
 
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Doesn't that kinda beats the idea of a circle? So much so that I can't see how one could call it that. A circle is adding one's power to others to increase strength... Without the extra strength, it's just control of another's weaves...

Yep, you got it right. The sul'dam provides no power to the weaving, just control. All the strength comes from the damane.

It's a link, but a very weird one.

As Moggy put it

We are linked." Still not paying attention, Nynaeve gave her braid a sharp pull. No way to tell which direction they had gone. And no warning of anything until she saw them. Somehow it still seemed unfair that they could channel without her being able to see or feel the flows. A stand-lamp that had been sliced in two was suddenly whole again, then not, just as quickly. That white fire must be incredibly powerful. Tel'aran'rhiodusually healed itself rapidly whatever you did to it.
"You brainless fool," Moghedien sobbed, shaking Nynaeve's skirt with both hands as if wanting to shake Nynaeve. "It does not matter how brave you are. We are linked, but you contribute nothing the way you are. Not a shred. It is my strength, and your madness. They are here in the flesh, not dreaming! They are using things you have never dreamed of! They will destroy us if we stay!"
 

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I am sure that an Aes Sedai could beat a suldam but I am not sure that an Aes Sedai could fight. Tar Valon itself has to be in danger before Aes Sedai can fight.
I am also not sure if the rest of the world would fight together. The Last Battle was a success partly because all the nations worked together. I am not sure if the nations would do that without a Dragon and the threat of death to motivate them.
 
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