The Song of the Tuatha'an

[Jell Gordan]

The long lost Song of the Tinkers. The reason they roam the land. Their raison d'être, their purpose of living!

Will it be rediscovered like Talents of old?

Will it have an important role to play in the final showdown?

Who will discover it? And how?

What good will finding the Song do in the last days before the Last Battle?

 

[Anika Forsyn]

Hmmm. I know Rand rediscovered it at Rhuidean (too lazy to look up spelling, sorry) but I would personally like to see it come to the Tinkers for their generations of searching. I have a lot of respect for the Tinkers in their holding to non-violent ways, but I also wish they didn't cling so hard to not protecting themselves and their loved ones. Doesn't that define us as caring individuals?

As for finding the Song in the last days, should there be some sort of global disaster again, wouldn't their song help to grow more food like they worked in the fields in Rand's vision? Could be important!

 

[Javamar Stavros]

Oh, I have no doubts that the Mahdi will ask someone at last if they know the song and Blessedly! , someone will finally be able to tell him yes.

The Song will one of rejoicing and reconciliation and they will find it among the Wise Ones. I have no doubts that the Song is known to them and the Aeiel will come to reunite with the Tinkers and they will all sing once again.

 

[Jell Gordan]

Hmmm. I know Rand rediscovered it at Rhuidean;

I assume you mean through the memories in the glass columns. Rhis would mean every Aiel clan chief and Wise One knows the Song. And if they have toh against the Aes Sedai, and the Tinkers for abandoning them during the Breaking, why not give it to them and meet their toh.

Of course, this would be a lot less dramatic and a bit anti-climatic...

 

[Anika Forsyn]

Nothing can be simple in the WoT!

 

[Jell Gordan]

That is a true fact

But we wouldn't want it any other way

 

[Morrighan Daghdera]

Ter'angreal identified by Aviendha...A small hinged box, apparently ivory, covered with rippling red and green stripes: A kind of music box, with hundreds or even thousands of tunes (KoD, Ch. 15).

Now we just need the means to unleashing the songs & I bet that one of them is "the" song.

 

[Jell Gordan]

But those ter'angreal were found in Ebo Dar (if I'm correct). Wouldn't it be more logical to find the key to releasing the Song in Rhuidaen? It is the place where the Jenn Aiel landed after splitting up from the Tinkers. The key to the song landed there by mistake and had been forgotten about for three millenia.

 

[Midian Venamar]

The Jenn Aiel had been traveling for a very long time ... they easily could have gone through Ebou Dar and lost some of their ter'angreal there.

And the Aiel don't consider themselves as having toh to the Tinkers. They consider them to have failed the Aes Sedai as well, just in a different way. The Aiel protected the ter'angreal, the Tinkers kept the Way of the Leaf, but only the Jenn Aiel did both.

I really hope Rand is the one that teaches the Tinkers the Song when he makes the final pact with the Seanchan, considering that the head of the Seanchan and the Tinkers are all sitting right around Ebou Dar right now.

 

[Jell Gordan]

Are they around Ebou Dar at this moment? I can't recall reading that. But it has been a while since ToM..

 

[Midian Venamar]

Yeah, I believe it was in TGS when either Perrin or Rand are passing through Seanchan lands near Ebou Dar, and they run into Tinkers that are going that way. Tinkers have always kept traveling because they haven't found safety or security anywhere in the world. With the Seanchan they have finally found the peace they've been looking for, and only at the expense of a few of their daughters being leashed to be damane. Since they've found security, all the Tinkers in the world are headed toward the center of the Seanchan government in Ebou Dar.

 

[Jell Gordan]

Sounds pretty dumb to me, and pretty anti-Tinker. The core of their belief is travelling to find the Song. If they're all in one place, the odds of finding it are pretty slim.

 

[Midian Venamar]

Yeah, but they've been trying to find a place where they don't have to fear for their lives too. This is the first time since the Hundred Companions went mad that they've had peace. I think they deserve a little break.

 

[Jell Gordan]

Yes, of course. They don't deserve to be treated like they have been. I just can't wrap my mind around the fact that they choose their safety at the expense of some of their daughters.

 

[Midian Venamar]

I have difficulty fully grasping it personally, but it makes sense with their society. For one, those daughters would likely be kidnapped/raped/etc, and they'd be powerless to stop anyone trying to do so and remain with their people. For another, that's kind of the point of the Way of the Leaf ... that you take life as it comes and don't complain about things that happen outside your control. I think they'd likely have more issue with it if they found out their daughters were being turned into channeling killing machines.

 

[Aulrick Vendour]

I'm honestly surprised the song hadn't turned up during ToM, or even TGS. It would have been the perfect way to repair the damage Rand brought on the world with his stoneness.
But I guess we'll have to RAFO. If it's going to be in the last book at all.

 

[Ivanor Winshaw]

I wonder if Zen Rand knows it. He keeps saying he has all of LTT's memories available to him now...

 

[Midian Venamar]

Ah, that's very true Ivanor Gaidin ... but then, he was a leader in the AoL, not an Aiel. Therefore, he'll much more likely make the connection, but I think it would still be Rand's own memory from the columns that would give them the detailed insight.

 

[Javamar Stavros]

I had this thought. At many times, Mat inadvertently speaks in the Old Tongue, not knowing what he is saying or even that he is saying it.

I envision a point where he meets the Mahdi and the memories in his head spout out the requested song with no overt recollection of where it came from.

 

[Jell Gordan]

Seems possible. The Tinkers are gathering around Ebou Dar apparently and his wife is in Ebou Dar. If he wants a conjugational visit it could make everything you say happen.

I wonder, if the Song is discovered, what effect it will have on the world and the Pattern and the Last Battle...