The Great Austenathon

Discussion in 'Non-WOT - Literature and Fiction' started by Elia LePhant, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. Alenya Al'Roran

    Alenya Al'Roran Novice

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    I made it through P&P and the Kiera Knightley movie is one of my favorites, do I'm game to give this a try. I'll go download a copy of Persuasion and see how it goes.
     
  2. Juliya Karasu

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    I finished my audiobook Persuasion yesterday!

    My old rating on Goodreads was 4/5, I've moved it up to 5/5. I really enjoyed listening to it!

    Mary is my least favourite character. I can forgive Elizabeth for being shallow and vain, and she had an unfortunate past, but Mary is such a whiner! And as a mom, I just can't handle her parenting.

    I haven't seen the 1971 either and want to! Just ordered the other 2 from the library.

    Anne says it was a good thing she listened to Lady Russell because then she wouldn't betray her conscience. I don't buy this. I think if she had disagreed with Lady Russell, married Wentworth (and they would have gotten along great because of both of their characters), Lady Russell would have seen how well they did and then forgive them and agree with them.

    I have to say, Anne still seems a bit weakling-ish to me at the end of the book. If I were her, I would have stood up to my sisters YEARS ago. But she still just goes along with whatever they do. I like Wentworth a lot - he's a character I feel I can relate to and believe more.

    Not to mention he's just dashing - a sea captain, with 25,000 pounds, a forceful character, but also polite and charming manners? Wentworth ... you might be my 2nd fave.
     
  3. Ashlyn Sindal

    Ashlyn Sindal Aes Sedai

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    Just finished chapter 8.

    This book is basically Ashlyn-nip. Two people with A History who are very much Not Over Each Other trying to pretend they are totally over each other amidst completely intolerable family members? Sign me the fork up, yo. :love The only thing I'm not living about this book is the part where I keep having to put it down to, like, work and sleep and stuff.

    Also, Anne's family reminds me way too much of my mother's family. I'll have to remember to give her an extra big hug next time I see her.
     
  4. Elia LePhant

    Elia LePhant Aes Sedai Historian

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    Finished up last night! Still so good. ^^

    I cracked up at this quote in the last chapter (also spoilers for the end):

    Like this was the most important thing to him. :lol Wentworth's name sounded posh enough to write in the family genealogy book. :p

    I really love that in the end, Anne finally takes initiative for her own happiness and basically just goes for it (in her own way, of course). I mean she is still very shy and passive, as I think that's just her nature, but for her, she really did make some bold steps. :)

    Now I'm off to watch the 1971 version!
     
  5. Tallan Daar

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    I really liked having the opportunity to look things up, I just wish I took better advantage of it instead of getting swept up in the story and neglecting it most of the time. :rolleyes I imagine it's extra helpful for people new to reading 19th century literature!

    I haven't gotten around to the 1971 movie yet - I watched the 1995 one, and I prefer it in almost all respects to the 2007 one, except most actors don't fit my mental images of the characters at all. :p Maybe I'm just influenced by the version I saw first. I strongly preferred Amanda Root's interpretation of Anne. She had a quiet strength and dignity that I found lacking in Sally Hawkins.

    I had a hard time feeling anything for Elizabeth, she felt more like a character sketch than a fully realised one, but Mary was very clear to me, and the over-the-top-ness of her - how obvious it was that everyone around her saw through her attempts to portray herself as interesting or important just made it amusing to me.


    If you are into fanfiction, a hot tip from me: Fair Winds and Homeward Sail. Follows the story of Sophia Wentworth, the future Mrs. Croft, focusing on her life and love and then turning its attention to the plot of the novel, seen through her eyes. I thought it was excellent.
     
  6. Ashlyn Sindal

    Ashlyn Sindal Aes Sedai

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    Through chapter 14.

    OMG, Mary.

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    I don't think I've wanted to slap a character so much since Dolores Umbridge.
     
  7. Alenya Al'Roran

    Alenya Al'Roran Novice

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    I just got started. Anyone else think Austen could have been a bit more creative when choosing names?
     
  8. Ashlyn Sindal

    Ashlyn Sindal Aes Sedai

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    Just finished Persuasion. I LOVE IT SO MUCH, YOU GUYS!

    I'm basically just sitting here grinning like an idiot. That first conversation Anne and Wentworth have after he arrives in Bath is just beautiful. I love how much they say without saying anything. And I'm usually annoyed by erroneously-directed jealousy, but I thought Austen handled it really well here. I think because Anne recognizes it immediately for what it is and Wentworth doesn't hold onto it once Anne indicates she's not into Mr. Elliot.

    And speaking of Mr. Elliot, I revise my earlier statement. He's the worst. Like, just, really. Fuck that guy. I feel so bad for the Smiths. Mary is still awful, though.

    I really can't believe I waited so long to read this one. I'm really looking forward to watching the movie adaptations.
     
  9. Elia LePhant

    Elia LePhant Aes Sedai Historian

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    Ashlyn!! :joy

    The whole Bath part of the book is one of my favorites ever. ^^ And his final letter to her is perfection. Seriously one of my favorite letters in a book. People always go on about Darcy's letter in P&P but to me Wentworth's letter is totally heart-throbby. And yeah Mr. Elliot is scum. :| I also feel bad for Mrs. Clay getting seduced by him, since he only did it to get her away from Sir Walter. :nono

    Let us know how you like the adaptations! :D

    Alenya - do you mean in naming the novels? Or just in general? I think her novels follow pretty standard naming conventions of her time period... It seems most books around that time were either titled after the main character, the main place, or the main theme. I do wonder what she would have chosen to name her novels if she lived now though. :D
     
  10. Alenya Al'Roran

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    I more meant her characters. I love Pride and Prejudice, and I'm on chapter 10 of Persuasion. She used Elizabeth, Anne, Mary, and Charles in both. I realize naming conventions of the time made those names common, but I think she could have used some others.
     
  11. Elia LePhant

    Elia LePhant Aes Sedai Historian

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    Ahhh yeah true lots of repeats for character names! Especially since her contemporaries were using names like Evelina and Belinda and Adeline for their main characters.

    ETA: Okay I'm in the middle of the 1971 adaptation and so far I'm liking it. :D It's very different from the 1995 and 2007 ones, but I kind of like the changes. Anne is much more assertive and can be kinda snarky even. The 1995 Anne is suuuuper passive and quiet so it's a pretty big difference. Although their dresses are so 70s I can almost feel the polyester. :lol
     
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  12. Juliya Karasu

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    I'm halfway through the 1971 as well. To be honest, I don't really like the actress for Anne in it because I think she's too sarcastic! She reminds me more of what Elizabeth Bennet should be. I prefer a quiet and humble Anne. Wentworth is gold, though.

    I don't know how historically accurate the dresses are (you're right, the fabric looks completely wrong) but I'm loving the colour schemes and patterns. I feel the whole thing has a very bright theme.

    Also it's quite slow. Very to-the-book. I'll probably finish the 2nd half tonight.
     
  13. Elia LePhant

    Elia LePhant Aes Sedai Historian

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    You're right, she is really reminding me of Elizabeth Bennet. I'm at the music room scene now.
     
  14. Elia LePhant

    Elia LePhant Aes Sedai Historian

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    So were y'all able to watch any of the adaptations yet? What did you think?

    I finished the 1971 version. I thought it was okay, like the rest of the Persuasion adaptations, but not perfect. I think we still deserve the perfect adaptation!! :p I thought Mary was great, and Wentworth. It was an interesting interpretation of Anne, very different from 1995 and 2007. I thought the main scenes between Anne and Wentworth were done well.

    Now on to the 1995! I haven't seen it in a very long time.
     
  15. Alenya Al'Roran

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    I'm about to start chapter 20 in the book. I find I have to reread some passages every now and again to understand what is going on. Sir Walter is a moron. So shallow.
     
  16. Alenya Al'Roran

    Alenya Al'Roran Novice

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    Finally finished. I liked the way it ended, and I'm glad I decided to give this a try. I was a little concerned about getting through another Austen novel, but it was well worth it. Now to find one of the movies.