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Discussion in 'Non-WOT - Literature and Fiction' started by Zad Al'Keem, Sep 19, 2015.

  1. Zad Al'Keem

    Zad Al'Keem

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    hahahaha! I just was at B&N yesterday. Seriously those paperbacks terrify me when I look at them. I obviously love big books. But these ones im glad I read on my kindle so I don't have to deal with those ominous thousands of pages.
     
  2. Leo Kian

    Leo Kian Aes Sedai Forum Moderator

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    I love the Malazan series. Definitely worth sticking with it, sometimes it can be a bit hard going especially as others have said some of the books are huge. The story is just immense, lots of interesting characters.

    It took me a while to get into it too, but stick with it :)
     
  3. Kallarn Lo'Vosh

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    You can get an E-book of the entire series in 1 book. Its 12,724 pages according to calibre. Id love to see a paperback version of that, supplied with free sackbarrow.
     
  4. Zad Al'Keem

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    I looked at that, just didn't have the money for it. haha. A paperback version. O boy.......
     
  5. Kethaana Nia Khamara

    Kethaana Nia Khamara Aes Sedai

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    Thanks for the interesting thread. I thought about reading those books for a while and now I'm sure that I'll give them a try.
    Have to finish a few other series first though :look
     
  6. Zad Al'Keem

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    *SPOILERS*....although I try to keep things a little vague....and I know some of you have not read the books. Like you Sephrenia Sedai.

    Holy....wow.


    Just finished book 2. Took me a little longer to read cause I took some short breaks to read some other things. But this ending was something else. I have gotten used to big huge twisty endings from Sanderson, and I was glad this was a little more toned down and simple. However, it was more personal and emotional.

    The events with Coltaine who had become one of my favorite characters were truly horrifying. Just as Duiker stood atop the wall and was horrified beyond belief. As was I. I had never felt that in a book. And I appreciate the skill that it took to get me to that point. To that ending scene I had come to the belief that Coltaine was invincible. To see him brought so low was heartbreaking!

    Kalams ending made me smile. 1300 children. Lol! I never did picture him as a father. Maybe we will have 1300 little assassins running around!

    Anyways. This was a great book. Glad I got through to this one. The first is a much harder read and a lot less rewarding. This feels good. I know the next book is a whole different place and situation. But here is what I am looking forward to in the future (please don't tell me if I am right or wrong).

    Coltaine and Tattersail growing up and (hopefully) teaming up! These two were great characters and I would love to see them work together!

    Kalam....I refuse to accept that his story is an ending. I know we will see him again. He became my favorite character, equal to Quick Ben.

    Sha`ik. I didn't like that story arc. Felt like I got whiplash. Kind innocent girl. Mean girl with a constant temper. Wise god advised woman. All in one book. I mean. I got the transition from innocent to pissed the **** off at everything! But to go from PO`ed to wise woman in 3 pages was....so quick it was almost painful.

    I don't think we will ever see the big face off between Sha'ik and Tavore. I think the bigger conflicts happening in the world will cause them to unite. Although. It will be a very contentious unification. A fun emotional thing Erickson can play with throughout a novel or two..

    I don't even know what is gonna happen with Icarium or Duiker. No freakin idea at all.

    QUESTIONS!

    OK...so I want the full experience in this world. But I really really don't want to read the Bauchelain & Korbal Broach Novels....Novellas. For you proper people.

    They don't look like something I would want to read. So....do they actually add anything to the experience? Or will it be the exact same without them? What are your opinions on the Esslemont novels?

    What are your feelings on book 2? What things stuck out to you? What things should I have been paying attention as I move forward through the series? Any secrets I should have pulled from this book that I probably missed?

    Glad I can kick start this thread again! Hope to keep it goin!
     
  7. Jeryn Lekar

    Jeryn Lekar testing bunny Gaidin Company Commander of Mahdi'in d'ma Dieb

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    I only read one of the novellas in the same universe. You don't have to read any of them to get the full experience. However, the world and lore of it is fleshed out a lot more if you read Esslemont's novels. I've managed just fine by only reading the main series though.

    As for book two, the ending was indeed heartbreaking. Like I probably said before though, I am on a first re-read now so I was preparedish. It still hit me in the feels but not quite as hard as it did the first way around.
     
  8. Zad Al'Keem

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    Its a pretty intense hit. I just hope to see more of him later down the line....

    I do intend to read all the Esslemont novels. I hear those flesh a lot of things out. They just aren't written as well. And thus are harder to get through.
     
  9. Kallarn Lo'Vosh

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    If you thought that about book 2 then Memories of Ice is going to be interesting for you!

    Bauchelain and Korbal broach novels are for me not a hit, the first book (collection of 3) and the third book was ok but Crack'd pot trail was just dull and pointless.

    I loved Esslemonts novels too and thought they added a lot to the story, they come into their own from Orb Sceptre throne in my opinion.

    Not read the Kharkanas book yet waiting for the second and third to come out first.
     
  10. Zad Al'Keem

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    From reviews Memories of Ice seems to be a favorite in the series. I am already super hyped for this from reading the ads.

    Im on sentence 1 as we speak and im already excited to have Rake, Brood, and Onearm back!

    Now. What is the different between the Esslemont and Erickson books? Why aren't they just considered one series if they are so involved together?
     
  11. Kallarn Lo'Vosh

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    They basically follow one plot, the crippled god, but Eriksons focuses on a much larger side of the story whereas Esslemont focuses on the Crimson guard and its exploits more than just the crippled god. I think Eriksons should be read first and the Esslemonts but thats my opinion, I think it'd get annoying trying to read them alongside chronologically.
     
  12. Zad Al'Keem

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    I am following the ultimate reading order or whatever that they show on the wiki. Im just gonna skip the novellas. The crippled god....I see things about it here in book 3. I don't even recall him being mentions in 1 and 2. Did he just introduce the main conflict really late? lol
     
  13. Ilyana Mandorallen

    Ilyana Mandorallen Aes Sedai

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    This series was recommended to me and I'm only a few chapters into Gardens of the Moon. So far I would have to say it's confusing and difficult to understand what's happening so far, but I am determined to get into and enjoy the series :lol
     
  14. Jeryn Lekar

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    Ilyana: Keep at it and you'll get into it more and more! I have faith in you! :D

    Zad: He was mentioned... after a fashion. That is all I am going to say. :look
     
  15. Zad Al'Keem

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    Don't base the series off of that book. Its hard. Just plow through. Get to the end. Then get to the good stuff in book 2.

    Book 2 is written in a much better way. From what I understand there was a very very long period between books 1 and 2. I think that long period improved his writing capabilities. Book 2 is much more enjoyable.
     
  16. Ilyana Mandorallen

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    :p I think the most confusing part is that it jumps around so much that I don't even know the perspective has changed until a few paragraphs in. I'll have Tattersails POV for a page, then it jumps to the past, then back to the present, then to some dude with a P name on a boat, then back to Tattersail, then to Whiskeyjack, so on and so forth. The author really wasn't kidding around in the foreword when he said he didn't want to spoonfeed his readers :lol
     
  17. Zad Al'Keem

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    That stuff still happens. Even into book 3. Reading it on kindle is bad because you don't even really get solid paragraph breaks at time. I remember reading about how one person was holding somebody as another way dying. Then it goes on to talk about how depressed and wounded a person was. And didn't realize it was a fully different character until like 3 pages into that perspective!
     
  18. Ilyana Mandorallen

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    That's probably most of my problem there - I'm reading on my tablet through Play Books :p
     
  19. Jeryn Lekar

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    Starting on "The Bonehunters" today. How is it going for y'all?
     
  20. Zad Al'Keem

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    I took a break to read Aether of Night from Sanderson. (Secret book you can get from emailing him). I also read The Chocolate War. Took me a day for that one. But now I am 40% through Memories of Ice. I like the set up that is going on. Having all the Mages in a crippled state creates a neat sub plot through what it happening.

    I find myself REALLY annoyed with Ganoes Paran. I mean. I hated Rand for a while for the same thing "ooooooooh. I got power and I don't want it. Don't make me have it. I don't want it. Im gonna be depressed until its gone. Yeah. Depression will make the power go away. Yeah." I mean....shape up! Nobody will take the power cause you don't want it. So grow up and use it to make the world a better place! Be responsible!